Charter 9MM Revolver
Does anyone have an update as to when this revolver will go to market? Thanks. Rick.
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According to Charter Arms, this gun will become available in Fall of 2009. . .
http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html
Nope. Now this one:
quote:http://www.charterfirearms.com/community/PR_pitbull.html
August 2011
Media contact: Lisa G. Cinquino
(203) 922-1652
Charter Arms Launches Pit Bull
World's First .40 Cal Rimless Revolver
SHELTON, CT, August 10, 2011-Charter Arms, manufacturer of American made affordable and reliable revolvers for forty-seven years, has released the world's first .40 caliber Rimless Revolver. Serious caliber enthusiasts will appreciate this model built on the same frame as the Charter Arms .44 Special.
Personally, after having heard about this "vaporware" gun for three years, I'm not holding my breath, but if you want more information, I suggest calling the customer service number for Charter arms listed in the above link.0 -
Ok. Thanks. At this rate, I'll have to have my Grandson take delivery. 0 -
Bud's is showing the .40 CARR in stock.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_203/products_id/76089
I assume they started with .40 looking for the PD backup and offduty market, since so many departments use .40 now.
It will probably have to sell pretty well for them to bother with the 9mm. I think the .45 will be last if ever.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
Bud's is showing the .40 CARR in stock.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_203/products_id/76089
I assume they started with .40 looking for the PD backup and offduty market, since so many departments use .40 now.
It will probably have to sell pretty well for them to bother with the 9mm. I think the .45 will be last if ever.
That's probably right, plus I just don't think there are any other .40SW snubnose revolvers on the market, let alone ones that can run without moonclips. Its debatable how large the niche is for .40SW snubnoses (probably not that large), but it actually *IS* a niche that Charter apparently owns now.
FWIW, I'd buy the 9mm but not a .40SW. I would strongly consider a .45 ACP too.
The .40SW is built on their .44 bulldog frame, and is just larger and heavier than the .38SW version, making it less ideal for concealed carry. IMO 9mm luger is actually a really good round for a snubnose for the average schmoe. Its more powerful than .38+P, falling roughly midway between .38 and .357 magnum, yet 9mm ammo is cheaper.
Short 9mm cases also should mean fast loading and positive ejection (ie the ejector should throw them totally clean of the cylinder, not halfway like most 2" .38 guns).
Only drawback is that the Charter guns aren't quite as smooth as the Smith, but they work well enough, and I'd buy one if they became available.
Also, if they built a long barreled version (ie 4" or even 5" or 6"), preferably with adjustable sights I'd buy one too, though I'm not holding my breath for that either.
In any case, while the ability to run 9mm luger without moonclips is a huge advantage in my opinion, historically demand for 9mm revolvers has always been pretty anemic in the USA. Smith didn't have a big hit with its 9mm revolvers (snubnose and other), and as far as I know, Taurus isn't selling lots of its own snubnose 9mms either.0 -
Just got this reply from Charter arms,
Thank you for your interest in our new Charter Arms rimless revolvers of
which the .40 caliber is now in production and shipping to our distributors.
We have secured our Patent Pending standing on the new and unique ejection
system.
The new "Pit Bull" is entirely self contained and requires no moon clips or
additional support equipment.
The Pit Bull is 416 stainless steel built on the Charter Arms large frame
revolver, 5-shot with a 2.3" barrel. The Pit Bull will feature a stainless
steel matte finish and regular spurred hammer.
It is Charter's plan to follow the Pit Bull up early next year with a 9mm
version built on the Charter Arms 416 stainless small frame revolver with a
2" barrel, 5-shot. We hope .45 caliber will be developed sometime in 2012.
Price for the .40 Pitbull is $465.00 MSRP.
Sincerely,
Dee Ecker
Customer Service Manager0 -
A friend has a first generation Undercover from back when they were selling well because S&W and Colt were hard to find on the commercial market. It is about as smooth in operation as a S&W or Colt. I have my late Uncle's Pathfinder .22 which is not as slick but is a serviceable plinker and trainer.
I know they've had their ups and downs but there are two of the "ups."
I will look closely at the 9mm.0 -
Has Charter Arms quality improved so as to be considered a reliable SD carry piece? 0 -
I'm not too enthused with either Charter Arms or a 9 MM pistol.
I had one of the very early .38 Charter Arms & it was very poorly made. First to go was the double action & then the timing.
I also had a Ruger with two cylinders one of which was for 9 MM.
The problem was that it was very fussy about what ammo would fit.
Reloads were nearly impossible & many factory loads as well.
Maybe it was just that one cylinder but it didn't work well for me.0 -
I would concur after happening across some recent reviews, apparently they haven't changed and are still unreliable which is too bad; as some of the caliber offerings in a snub ccw revolver would be nice which none of the quality makers apparently manufacture. 0
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