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Is a Sig 239 really worth $600.00+?

Bill Jordan
I'm just wondering; Is a Sig that much better a gun than , say, a CZ, EAA, or Bersa in the same cal?
Just looking for opinions; I carry something else.
Thanks.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by Bill Jordan
    I'm just wondering; Is a Sig that much better a gun than , say, a CZ, EAA, or Bersa in the same cal?
    Just looking for opinions; I carry something else.
    Thanks.


    I don't think so, but its a question of taste. SIGs are built well, have excellent fit and finish, reliable, and accurate. You're paying a little more for the reputation,

    Is a BMW really that much better than a Buick?
    Both will get you to work, right?

    EDIT:
    Just to clarify, I'm not saying the SIG 239 isn't worth the asking price of $600. . .this is a case of getting what you pay for. I'm just saying that for many shooters, the extra cost isn't going to make a FUNCTIONAL difference. (IE most people will do just fine with the Buick!).
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  • 62fuelie
    As in any transaction the value of something is fully dependant on how much the buyer wants it. I have carried Sigs for duty and off-duty since the days of the Browning BDA-45 (a Sig P-220) and have not found anything that I would consider a fit replacement. That being said, there are other shooters who feel the same way about their 1911s, their Glocks, Berettas and on and on. The P239 is an excellent weapon. Mine is a dual caliber - .40S&W and .357 Sig - and I carry if as my CCW except when I'm wearing shorts or something that makes it impractical, then I drop my Kahr PM9 in my pocket. The CZ and the EEA models that I have handled are larger and heavier than the single stack P239. I don't have any experience with the Bersa. So, bottom line, Yes, I think the Sig is worth the price.
    Edit: If you have the .40 already then you can buy just the .357 Sig barrel - For some reason the 239 uses a different magazine for the .40 and the .357. I got mine from BarSto Precision, but Sig is selling them now, too.
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  • Bill Jordan
    Thanks; my basic reason for asking is that I bought (stole) one in .40 and I thought it may be a keeper.
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  • tsr1965
    Basically, the Sig 239 is Sig's version of the now discontinued S&W 3913, and 4013. They are compact sized pistols that function flawlessly. I have never heard a bad thing about either the Sig 239, or the S&W's that I mentioned. They made the 239's in 357 Sig too.

    Yes, the Sig 239 is worth it...and then some.

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    quote:Not that it's intended to be a long range shooter, but with this little concealment gun you can sit back and dink a steel silhouette at 100 yds. with great regularity. In short, if you can't hit with this gun it's your fault.

    Don't expect this sort of stuff with a Bersa.

    Yes, the Sig is capable, and in the right hands, so is the 3913, and the Glock 19. More so with the S&W, and to a lesser extent with the Glock.

    Some of these little guns are really under looked, and under rated of their capabilities,

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  • Txs
    It depends upon your demands and what your life is worth if you're carrying a pistol for defensive purposes.

    Besides having a high level of reliability, that SIG is capable of greater accuracy than the majority of it's owners.

    Not that it's intended to be a long range shooter, but with this little concealment gun you can sit back and dink a steel silhouette at 100 yds. with great regularity. In short, if you can't hit with this gun it's your fault.

    Don't expect this sort of stuff with a Bersa.
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  • mango tango
    Hands down, the Sig is an awesome gun, try to find one on the auction side!
    I have a 239 and i love it!
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  • tsavo303
    the sig has nothing to do and is head and shoulders above the smiths you mentioned

    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Basically, the Sig 239 is Sig's version of the now discontinued S&W 3913, and 4013. They are compact sized pistols that function flawlessly. I have never heard a bad thing about either the Sig 239, or the S&W's that I mentioned. They made the 239's in 357 Sig too.

    Yes, the Sig 239 is worth it...and then some.

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    EDIT 1

    quote:Not that it's intended to be a long range shooter, but with this little concealment gun you can sit back and dink a steel silhouette at 100 yds. with great regularity. In short, if you can't hit with this gun it's your fault.

    Don't expect this sort of stuff with a Bersa.

    Yes, the Sig is capable, and in the right hands, so is the 3913, and the Glock 19. More so with the S&W, and to a lesser extent with the Glock.

    Some of these little guns are really under looked, and under rated of their capabilities,

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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
    the sig has nothing to do and is head and shoulders above the smiths you mentioned

    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Basically, the Sig 239 is Sig's version of the now discontinued S&W 3913, and 4013. They are compact sized pistols that function flawlessly. I have never heard a bad thing about either the Sig 239, or the S&W's that I mentioned. They made the 239's in 357 Sig too.

    Yes, the Sig 239 is worth it...and then some.

    Best

    EDIT 1

    quote:Not that it's intended to be a long range shooter, but with this little concealment gun you can sit back and dink a steel silhouette at 100 yds. with great regularity. In short, if you can't hit with this gun it's your fault.

    Don't expect this sort of stuff with a Bersa.

    Yes, the Sig is capable, and in the right hands, so is the 3913, and the Glock 19. More so with the S&W, and to a lesser extent with the Glock.

    Some of these little guns are really under looked, and under rated of their capabilities,

    Best



    Sorry, but but I don't agree with you. The Sigs are good, and I have personally shot both the 3913, and the 239. In my eyes, and experience, they are equals, as neither performs any tasks better than the other. They are both highly desirable carry guns, just that the S&W is not produced any more.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    It depends upon your demands and what your life is worth if you're carrying a pistol for defensive purposes.

    Besides having a high level of reliability, that SIG is capable of greater accuracy than the majority of it's owners.

    Not that it's intended to be a long range shooter, but with this little concealment gun you can sit back and dink a steel silhouette at 100 yds. with great regularity. In short, if you can't hit with this gun it's your fault.

    Don't expect this sort of stuff with a Bersa.


    A few points in response.

    -Your life isn't worth any more or less if you're carrying a $200 pistol or a $600 one or a $3000 one. Getting shot with a $200 gun doesn't hurt any less (or more) than being shot with a $600 one.

    This argument doesn't make any sense. If it did, we'd all be walking around with $5000 match pistols, right?

    You pick the gun that meets your needs, with cost being one of many different factors worth considering (others being caliber, size, weight, ergonomics, action type, sights, capacity, platform compatibility, simple availability, etc).

    -SIGs are certainly in the top tier of reliability, but they're not functionally any more reliable than Glocks, Berettas, or CZ pistols, all of which will run nearly 100% with normal ammo, even when dirty, abused, etc. The steel Smith autos have their own idiosyncrasies (and all else being equal, I wouldn't pick one over a SIG), but even the Smiths are highly reliable too.

    -Its the rare gun that isn't more intrinsically accurate than the typical shooter, and bluntly, if you don't hit what you're aiming at, its ALWAYS your fault! If you take a shot and didn't connect, its your responsibility.

    With a competent shooter and a small amount of "kentucky windage", any of these guns are capable of consistently hitting a 16" (or wider) width diameter man sized target (or smaller) at 100 yards. I've seen it done or done it myself with Glocks, 1911s, various service and hunting revolvers (including a 2" barrel .38), CZ-75, and a variety of .22 pistols. Never actually seen it attempted with a Bersa, but I'd bet cash money it could be done with the Bersa concealed carry equivalent, the UC 9, given a little practice.

    A 16" target at 100 yards is only 4" at 25 yards, and with quality ammo, pretty much ANY service gun out of the box can do that. (Not that trying it in the "real world" off the shooting range where misses "count" is a good idea).

    If you want to compare accuracy, you need to look at group sizes, with the standard for service pistols being groups at 25 yards.

    More specifically, according to this published reference, the Sig 239 is capable of sub-2" 25 yard groups with the right ammo, which is exceptional accuracy, especially for a gun this small.

    http://tinyurl.com/3v395ss

    So yes, its accurate.

    But along those lines, I've actually "Pepsi challenged" my 1984 CZ-75 against both a SIG p226 and a SIG p229 and I consistently shot the CZ better than either one. CZ-75 will print sub-2" groups all day. Never done it against a SIG 239, though I'm sure the CZ wouldn't embarrass itself.

    On top of it, the double-action trigger pull is better on the CZ than the ordinary SIG. If you like a DAO type of action, I'm sure the SIG "DAK" trigger is better than the CZ.

    My point is, while the SIG is an extremely good pistol, there are a number of other good guns on the market too, and good work can still be done with others.
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  • tsavo303
    I have too, and i have sold all my sw autos of that series b/c they are obsolete.
    best

    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
    the sig has nothing to do and is head and shoulders above the smiths you mentioned

    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Basically, the Sig 239 is Sig's version of the now discontinued S&W 3913, and 4013. They are compact sized pistols that function flawlessly. I have never heard a bad thing about either the Sig 239, or the S&W's that I mentioned. They made the 239's in 357 Sig too.

    Yes, the Sig 239 is worth it...and then some.

    Best

    EDIT 1

    quote:Not that it's intended to be a long range shooter, but with this little concealment gun you can sit back and dink a steel silhouette at 100 yds. with great regularity. In short, if you can't hit with this gun it's your fault.

    Don't expect this sort of stuff with a Bersa.

    Yes, the Sig is capable, and in the right hands, so is the 3913, and the Glock 19. More so with the S&W, and to a lesser extent with the Glock.

    Some of these little guns are really under looked, and under rated of their capabilities,

    Best



    Sorry, but but I don't agree with you. The Sigs are good, and I have personally shot both the 3913, and the 239. In my eyes, and experience, they are equals, as neither performs any tasks better than the other. They are both highly desirable carry guns, just that the S&W is not produced any more.
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  • SP45
    Single stack version of the 229. The answer to your question is "yes"
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