454 Casull
anyone tell me what the max. range is for this car. in a rifle
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I just got a Freedom Arms 454 casull and i am considering mounting a scope on it. Freedom Arms recomend a Leupold or Weaver 2x or 4x? Does anyone have any suggestions for a scope that will stand up to the recoil of the big 454? all the best 0 -
Its not quite so bad in the full size Ruger Redhawk or Freedom Arms revolvers. I have not fired a 2" casull so I can't imagine what it feels like, but I bet its a handfull...hold on tight, you're going for a ride! 0 -
And for further enjoyment try the 460 S&W; never shot one in two inch but even the longer barrels are pretty exciting. Yes, you can shoot 454 Casull and 45 Colt in the 460 but the point of impact is so different it doesn't seem real practical at hunting ranges. 0 -
I couldn't help but reminise and chuckle when reading about your 454 plight. The same thing happened to me a few years ago. The ruger I shot one single round through had a 4 inch uncompensated barrel. Once fired, the blood rushed out of my palm, turning white as a sheet and for a few seconds I thought my hand was broken. I agree with your statement regarding the bear situation however in the near future, unless the 454 is in a rifle platform, I will avoid it like the plague. Lesson learned, the hard way! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by woodchuckjohn
I had the unfortunate opportunity to fire a Ruger two inch revolver today in .454 Casull caliber. No one will ever have to advise me not to buy one or shoot one again. If you are in the clutches of a Grizzly and pumping a couple of these slugs into him will save your life, go for it. Otherwise firing this gun is pure punishment. Not just the high twisting recoil, but the force against your palm between the thumb and trigger finger is where the pain is. The only 4's I'm into are 45 ACP, long Colt or 44 special. Yes, this gun can be loaded down to 45 Long Colt so it isn't a total loss.
It might be less painful to just let the bear bite you. [;)]
Given the recoil, you're probably not going to be able to get off more than one shot anyway.
Anyway, this is all known. True .454 loads are fairly punishing even from a full sized, long barreled heavy frame revolver. Firing one from a snubnose is just insanity.
The Smith .460 definitely recoils, but its not quite as bad as you might think. It uses gain-twist rifling (which slows the guns recoil twist a smidge), but more importantly has a built-in compensator to help reduce muzzle flip. Also, the Smith .460 is built on an absolutely massive heavy "X" frame. The full sized gun weighs 4.5 lbs so it does soak up some recoil.
On the other hand, carrying one around with you is somewhat akin to walking around with a 5 lb construction brick!0 -
I can remember hearing such stories about the .44 magnum (AKA the .44 eargesplittenloudenboomer) fifty years ago. It seems that everyone had heard of someone who had the web of their hand split open.
I have two .454s (One carbine & one pistol). Yes the recoil is stout & it is not something you care to shoot a lot of at a time but it is manageable. Of course the devil is in the details & possibly heavier loads could make a big difference.
I once saw a Freedom Arms .454 with a very short barrel on consignment. The sales tag called it a ".454 Flamethrower". I've never fired such an item but I should imagine that a lot of the energy would be wasted.0 -
woodchuckjohn,
Yes, the 454 is not for the fain of heart, no matter which handgun it is chambered in. However, even though the 460, and 500 are built on the massive "X" frame, if you ever shoot one in their short barrel "Bear Attack Kit", you will appreciate the 454 more for the less recoil it has.
There are no substitutes for the laws of physics...
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