colt m1911 a1 us army

stirrat

September 20, 2011 14:25

i have a colt 1911. will post some pics. i believe it is a gi gun. can someone give me some info on date of pistol.

slide says
"m1911 a1 uS army"
frame says
"united states property m1911 us army"
"no741029"

there is "73" on the trigger guard

left side of slide says
"patented april 20 1897
dec 9 1905
feb 14 1911
aug 10 1913"
"colts pt f.a. mfg.co
hartford ct usa"

left frame has "rs" below slide release
"p" next to mag release.

also "p" on top of slide just in front of rear sight.

thanks for your help on letting me know what i have.

scott

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  Spider7115

  September 20, 2011 14:28

  I'm moving this thread to the "Ask the experts" forum but pics are definitely needed.
  
  This thread shows you how to post them: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294

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  nmyers

  September 20, 2011 14:55

  Yes, it is a USGI M1911A1, made in 1941. As Spider says, photos are a must if we are to tell you more about. We will need to be able to read all markings, even those on the bottom of the barrel after you take the gun apart.
  
  Neal
  
  EDIT: You can see photos of a similar gun that really has the original finish at this site:
  http://www.model1911a1.com/
  
  Is there any other part of your story that you need to change? First you say you have the gun, then you want to know how much you should pay for it. I'm confused.

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  stirrat

  September 20, 2011 15:22

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  sorry i don not have more pics. i do not have the gun in front of me. hope this helps. i can take it apart if need be. what should i be willing to pay for this gun?

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  perry shooter

  September 20, 2011 15:57

  shipped as 1 of 400 on Oct 3,1941 to Springfield ARMORY the R.S. in the Square is a provisional inspector mark of ROBERT SEARS Re transfered from Hartford on June 30,1941. but his marks were continued until Nov. 1941. The grips on your pistol should be Plastic not the double diamond wood grips any thing after serial 730000 would have plastic grips as standard. Finish on pistol Could be Blued/Blacked or Parkerized.In some ways your pistol look original finish but other places it looks refinished. The barrel should have Colt 45 Auto on the left bottom side of the chamber area and the letter P on left bottom locking lug. Hope this helps. A HANDS-ON would really be the only way to really tell if the pistol have ALL the correct parts but the grips."PRAISE THE HARD- BALL GUN

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  Hawk Carse

  September 20, 2011 16:02

  Grips are 1911, a 1941 1911A1 ought to have plastic or some of the last plain checkered walnut.
  
  It looks shiny, I suspect but can't be sure of a reblue.
  One of the real experts will be able to tell more.
  
  I won't guess a price but if it has been refinished, it shouldn't be high. Too bad, one of the last peacetime guns is a good catch.

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  stirrat

  September 20, 2011 16:06

  i do not believe it has been refinished. it looks about 80% and really nice for the age

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  rufe-snow

  September 20, 2011 16:49

  I agree with PS about the hands on inspection to verify if it's factory original. Your photos lack clarity to determine if it's the real mccoy, as far as it's being factory. Unfortunately nowadays a pre W W II Colt 1911A1 would be a prime candidate for restoration.

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  stirrat

  September 20, 2011 17:22

  ok i can verify if it has been refinished or not. upon inspection i believe it to be original however i wil have our gunsmith go over it to confirm. assuming it is in original condition can someone give me a ballpark value.
  
  thanks

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  givette

  September 20, 2011 18:37

  Grips show 'finger wear' to the front. Don't mean squat, except it may have been shot, and shot a lot (why else the finger marks?)
  
  Now, if the insides are unworn, that is, show little evidence of firing, has a good to excellent bore, and all internal parts check-out as early '40's Colt, then, and in this economy, $1500 is not unreasonable.
  
  If the internals don't pass muster, and show evidence of extensive use/cycling, then $1000 is not unreasonable.
  
  Jury is still out vis-a-vis the finish, I'm afraid. Right side of frame looks buffed, as far as the photo allows us to see. So, and in conclusion, I can't amend my statement to something nicer than what I'm seeing.
  
  Don't get me wrong, you have shown us a potential collectors item! Good luck! Joe
  
  Best, Joe

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  NOAH

  September 20, 2011 19:28

  i will trade you the right grips for the gun for the ones that are on it[;)]

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