British Webley revolvers-need info
I picked up an unusual pistol I believe is some variation of the Webley. It has a 2" barrel, double action only, .38 S&W cal. The only markings are- on left side under the barrel is".35-767" 3 1/2 tons", under this is the 'BNP proof and the crown. Cylinder has what appears as EB1 and U3476, right side under the hammer is the "broad arrow and /64. Grips are dark brown plastic and it has the lanyard ring on the butt. Any info on this item would be appreciated.
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Most likely it's a Enfield Number 2 Mark 1*. These were imported in great numbers and sold in the States during the 50's/60's time frame. To make them more salable as personal protection handguns, the importers cut the barrels down and replaced the front sight. Unfortunately this has negatively affected their value to military handgun collectors. As it stands now there only value is as a inexpensive personal protection handgun, chambered for expensive and difficult to obtain .38 Smith & Wesson ammo.
EDIT #1 This is a photo of a original Number 2 Mark 1* that was used by the Commonwealth forces during W W II. It was common to find them with a black enamel paint finish that the brits used during the war. Many of the ones bubbaed in the U.S. after the war were reblued
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Here's a picture of what (possibly) you have. Is it a match? 0 -
No, the front sight is just like the one with the 4" barrel, looking at the gun I don't see how this could be a cut down one as shown. The front sight base is part of the barrel just like the 4" model. Thanks for the replies. 0 -
Try looking up photos of the Webley Tanker model,very collectable 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ammo guy
No, the front sight is just like the one with the 4" barrel, looking at the gun I don't see how this could be a cut down one as shown. The front sight base is part of the barrel just like the 4" model. Thanks for the replies.
The barrel length on the Enfield, Number 2, Mark 1* in the above photo is 5". All the Enfields that were made for British Commonwealth forces prior to and during the Second World War had the same barrel length.
The Proof Marks you noted in your in your first post. ".35-767 3 1/2 tons" & "BNP and Crown" are British commercial Proof Marks that were required by their laws, when they were sold as military surplus to U.S. firearms importers.0 -
Some importers did a better job than others in shortening the barrels. In fact Cogswell & Harrison, a famous old English maker, did some of that work before the revolvers were shipped to the US. In any case, Rufe-Snow is correct that it is simply a cut down Enfield No. 2 MK 1. The steel batch # on the cylinder is the give away. No Webleys were ever marked that way. 0 -
As suggested above I googled the " Webley Tanker Model" and the one sold on {elsewhere} in '05 is just like the one I have. Don't know if it was correctly ID's or not but it is the same gun. Is this a correct model? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ammo guy
As suggested above I googled the " Webley Tanker Model" and the one sold on {elsewhere} in '05 is just like the one I have. Don't know if it was correctly ID's or not but it is the same gun. Is this a correct model?
The Webley Mark IV .38 revolvers made during W W II, had a hammer spur because they were both single and double action. Their grips were prominently marked with the Webley name, also the top strap over the cylinder had the Webley & Scott name engraved/stamped in the steel. Your revolver isn't a Webley.
EDIT #1, This is a photo of a Webley Mark IV revolver, compare it to the Enfield revolver you have.0 -
Webley tankers are a source of debate I.E. were they really designed for tank crews or were they just a short barreled defense revolver Webley had on the shelf when anything that could shoot was pressed into service by the military at the beginning of WWII. for the answer you will have to dig as there are a lot if differing opinions. good luck 0 -
The guy above says the gun is not a Webley, well what is it then? 0
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