Octagon Barrel 1895 Nagant Revolver?

Juggernaut

August 20, 2011 19:03

Was there ever an octagon barrel 1895 Nagant Revolver manufactured?
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  rufe-snow

  August 20, 2011 19:36

  I have owned and seen a lot of the Russian military Nagants over the years. Never seen one with a octagon barrel.
  
  In Zhuk's book, "The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Handguns" there are drawings of Belgian revolvers that are knock-offs of Nagants, that have octagon barrels. They don't have the internal gear mechanism that forces the cylinder forward like the Russian Model 1895 Nagants though.

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  Juggernaut

  August 20, 2011 19:42

  Thanks rufe-snow, was really hoping that there was as apparently it would be quite unique and I like many others just like curio relics especially with attributes like octagon barrels and such so my hope was that it existed.

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  hrf

  August 21, 2011 02:36

  The 1895 had a round barrel, but there were earlier models with octagon barrels:
  
  http://www.littlegun.be/arme belge/artisans identifies nagant/a nagant gb.htm

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  Juggernaut

  August 21, 2011 03:57

  Great website and info thanks hrf.

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  Mgderf

  August 21, 2011 04:19

  quote:Originally posted by hrf
  The 1895 had a round barrel, but there were earlier models with octagon barrels:
  
  http://www.littlegun.be/arme belge/artisans identifies nagant/a nagant gb.htm
  
  
  I must concur.
  That is a very informative website. Bookmarked, and thanks for the link!

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  Juggernaut

  August 21, 2011 05:52

  I see that some Nagant revolvers are in 7.5mm, is there any alternative caliber that can be safely shot in those similar to .32 H&R mag in the 7.62x38mm Nagant revolver?

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  rufe-snow

  August 21, 2011 09:06

  quote:Originally posted by Juggernaut
  I see that some Nagant revolvers are in 7.5mm, is there any alternative caliber that can be safely shot in those similar to .32 H&R mag in the 7.62x38mm Nagant revolver?
  
  
  The Swede 7.5 Nagant has the same problem as the 1895 Russians. The chambers are oversize. If you shoot .32 ACP or .32 S & W Long, in them, more then likely the brass will deform and split. I wouldn't be attempting to shoot 32 H & R Mag in them as they are 19th Century Black Powder revolvers, not made for hot smokeless loads. Only way I have been successful in shooting my Swede revolver is to fireform 32-20 brass. It will stand up to a fair number of light reloads before the brass starts to split.

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  Juggernaut

  August 21, 2011 09:25

  I shoot .32 H&R mag in my 1895 Target Revolver alot and have done so for years and the most that I get is an occasional case bulge or two, but the revolver functions perfectly fine and is quite accurate and powerful without any problems so I was hoping to be able to do the same with the other as well.

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  thunderbolt

  August 22, 2011 11:24

  I think Southern Ohio Guns used to sell a conversion cylinder in .32 long for the Nagant.

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  Juggernaut

  August 22, 2011 11:43

  Yes there are several places that sell the conversion .32 ACP cylinder and I want to get one and have it bored for the longer .32 H&R Magnum removing the rim stop inside the cylinder bores. There is a difference in saami cup pressure of course however after researching the issue I found no problems nor heard of any either and neither did any of the gunsmiths that I consulted express concern. The cylinders both original and modern are made quite well and from good steel and usually to handle more than the projected pressure intended.

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