BROWNING BAR..intensive care!!
ok experts.. had a browning bar .243 come into the shop 3 days ago. customer said bolt was stuck. i'm thinking buffer. sure enough, recoil buffer was MIA. now... gas piston was stuck. soaked in kroil for 24 hrs. used brass rod that i ground down to drive out piston. removed rod,etc. bolt still froze and will not move. took bore scope and inspected. alas.. case stuck in barrel. now the problem. extractor has a grip on case. taking a rod and tapping does no good. locking lugs still in place!! i am thinking i have to break down the brass case with hoppes or something to be able to get this monster freed up. any suggestions??
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Do not use a copper solvent to errode the case. You stand just as good a chance of erroding the chamber.
This looks like a two person operation, as you might need someone to hold the gun. Make sure the round in the chamber is fired, and is not live. You will have to bump the bolt carrier back and forth, to hopefully start the bolt rotating. You will need to remove the stock, and orearm, as not to damage them. The big problem is with the small caliber, finding a rod stiff enough to drive the case out, without damaging the barrel.
You might be a step ahead in ending this one to Browning, and letting them deal with it.
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"You will need to remove the stock, and Forearm"..........good idea but you have to open the action to remove the forearm. certainly remove the stock and trigger group, possibly 'bumping' the bolt carrier from the bottom with a brass drift. 0 -
the gun is stripped except getting the bolt out. i just might think about sending it to browning. thanks 0 -
Please get back to us as to just what caused this problem at the onset.
I'm in the mood for a Browning BAR, and I'm glad I've stumbled along your post, because I need to know if the problem is a 'frequency of occurence due to poor design', or if it will be (has been?) determined to be user error, such as improper maint, handloading, etc.
Thanks in advance, Joe0 -
i have my own gun shop with a fed lic. i have worked on many BAR's.this is a first for me. when the customer contacted my shop i was thinking the buffer. common with this model. when i broke it down, buffer was not intact. when i had to soak the gas piston in KROIL for 24 hrs. .... it was NEGLECT. BROWNING MAKES AN EXCELLENT FIREARM. imop... the last person to fire the rifle just stuck it in some dark corner. when you have cob webs on the inside of the sight hood you have to use your imagination[;)] quote:Originally posted by givette
Please get back to us as to just what caused this problem at the onset.
I'm in the mood for a Browning BAR, and I'm glad I've stumbled along your post, because I need to know if the problem is a 'frequency of occurence due to poor design', or if it will be (has been?) determined to be user error, such as improper maint, handloading, etc.
Thanks in advance, Joe0 -
The browning bar ll I had was a 300 win mag... It was accurate and even reliable in a hard rain, but one evening I was sittin on a sand hill with the wind blowing pretty hard. I shot a deer then the gun jammed due to sand in the action. I only use ak/rpk guns while hunting now , but rain and a little mud never stopped it. The feel/balance of the gun was second to none for me 0 -
imo, the chamber was corroded to start with/ hence the problem/I think tsr has the right approach as that has happened to me but not a BAR. 0 -
260..thanks for taking the time to reply. Joe 0 -
thanks to all for the help. i am going to contact browning tomorrow and see about getting it to them. i am sure the chamber was rough when it was last fired going by the way the piston looked. sometimes i just have to shake my head at things i see in this shop.[V] 0 -
I meant the only semi- autos at ak/rpk I use for hunting. I usually use my bolt 300 0
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