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T/C Super 16 barrel - legal with pistol grip?

bbaumer
As stated in another thread I just picked up a Contender with a couple barrels. One of which is a 35 Rem Super 16. The gun came with a couple pistol grips and a rifle stock.

I am aware I cannot use say a 10" barrel with the rifle stock without paying the feds their tax.

Question - Can I legally use the Super 16 barrel with the pistol grip? I live in Indiana if that makes a difference. Thanks.

Edit: Oh, by the way, this question is in regard to deer hunting. I think the Super 16 pistol version would be legal but not sure it would be considered a handgun or not with the 16" barrel.
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  • bbaumer
    I did find this from the Indiana code:

    IC 35-47-1-6
    "Handgun"
    Sec. 6. "Handgun" means any firearm:
    (1) designed or adapted so as to be aimed and fired from one (1) hand, regardless of barrel length; or
    (2) any firearm with:
    (A) a barrel less than sixteen (16) inches in length; or
    (B) an overall length of less than twenty-six (26) inches.
    As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.
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  • bbaumer
    I suppose since it would be designed to be fired with one hand I am OK - correct?

    I could in theory have a 28" barrel handgun assuming it had a pistol grip then - correct?
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  • rufe-snow
    Requesting legal advice from a bunch of Philadelphia lawyers over the net is a major fail. Find out when state law enforcement agency in Indiana has jurisdiction over firearms used for hunting. Get a lawyer letter from them regarding this. If you don't you risk getting cited by some over zealous game warden, and having your Contender confiscated.
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  • sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by bbaumer
    I did find this from the Indiana code:

    IC 35-47-1-6
    "Handgun"
    Sec. 6. "Handgun" means any firearm:
    (1) designed or adapted so as to be aimed and fired from one (1) hand, regardless of barrel length; or
    (2) any firearm with:
    (A) a barrel less than sixteen (16) inches in length; or
    (B) an overall length of less than twenty-six (26) inches.
    As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.


    quote:Originally posted by bbaumer
    I suppose since it would be designed to be fired with one hand I am OK - correct?

    I could in theory have a 28" barrel handgun assuming it had a pistol grip then - correct?


    You found your answer right there. In your state, the weapon has to have a barrel of under sixteen inches or be less than twenty-six inches overall. I don't understand why with that second part, but it means you can have a firearm designed to be held by one hand as long as it's under 26 inches.

    The first part of that is pretty common in a lot of states. If you had any issues with it, you may want to take you gun into a gunsmith and have it recrowned. During that process your gunsmith can shorten the barrel just enough to ensure it's legality.
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  • dcs shooters
    www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/2343.htm will get your info [;)]
    click on the deer picture then scroll down to deer hunting equipment.
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  • tsr1965
    It is perfectly legal in the federal laws, and all of the laws of your state, including the hunting regulations.

    Best
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  • sandwarrior
    OK...so I went to the site Ddcs shooters provided and read at the bottom of legal/illegal cartridges:

    "Some illegal rifle cartridges for deer hunting are the .30-30 Winchester, .444 Marlin and .45-70 Govt.

    Those seem like some pretty damn good deer cartridges. What's up with that?
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  • llama
    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    OK...so I went to the site Ddcs shooters provided and read at the bottom of legal/illegal cartridges:

    "Some illegal rifle cartridges for deer hunting are the .30-30 Winchester, .444 Marlin and .45-70 Govt.

    Those seem like some pretty damn good deer cartridges. What's up with that?


    I believe that Indiana requires either a shotgun, a pistol, and recently they added "rifles firing a pistol caliber w/ a straight wall case". Certain OAL maximums, etc. The first year of this rule - a couple of years ago - there was a spike in prices for the Ruger 44 carbines, pistol caliber lever guns, etc.
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  • dfletcher
    I agree with the 'Philly Lawyer" post and have no idea if a +16" bbl takes the firearm out of the handgun category in IN. Here is the federal definition of a handgun:

    http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/44/921

    Go to section 29 for federalhandgun information, of course you'd have to abide by IN law.

    Federally the barrel length is of no importance and the firearm is considered a handgun. IN, like other states, may further define a handgun (for hunting purposes or CCW) as a weapon that may be readily concealed upon a person and use barrel length of no greater than 16" to make that determination.

    I think you've already found an excuse to buy another barrel. [:D]The 35 Remington and 375 JDJ are available as "Super 14" barrels and each is excellent for deer, you could probably pick up used in either for about $150.00. That would be my "play it safe" approach.
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  • andrewsw16
    Again, legal advice on an internet forum is worth exactly what you paid for it. [:D] The smart thing to do is what was suggested earlier. Take the initiative to get the FACTS from your state and local agencies that will be enforcing the law in YOUR jurisdiction. Print it out, along with the header data and phone contact information. Keep it with you when you are using any gun that MIGHT be open to criticism by some local Barney. [;)] That beats the heck out of saying, "Well, Mr Game Warden, I'll have you know that "selfproclaimedexpert" on the gun forum I visit says this gun is legal." [:D] Of course, you're welcome to try it that way. [:p] Happy Hunting.
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