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  • redhead71
    Anyone know who is the 43 senators that oppose the treaty? And the ones who want this treatyto go through?
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  • retroxler58
    Seems that there are NOW 57 Senators who oppose the UN Treaty...
    Web Link

    I'm trying to find a list.......
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  • steg
    For the past year, I have been reading numerous articles about the proposed UN treaty that is a threat to the 2nd Amendment.
    Since when can a foreign power or organization overide our constitution?????? Even if our Senate votes to adopt the treaty, how can this stand up in our Supreme Court.....or am I missing something?
    I honestly believe none of this can or will happen, because any Senator who would vote for such a treaty (including Feinstein and Schumer) would go down in flaming defeat in any future election.
    The American people may be lazy and to a great extent ill-informed, but they aint stupid!!!! And they do get even at election time!
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  • MaxOHMS
    quote:Originally posted by redhead71
    Anyone know who is the 43 senators that oppose the treaty? And the ones who want this treatyto go through?


    This list I copied from the letter in the link listed above contains the signers:


    Signed by U.S. Senators Lamar Alexander (R-TN), Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), John Barrasso (R-WY), Roy Blunt (R-MO), John Boozman (R-AR), Scott Brown (R-MA), Richard Burr (R-NC), Dan Coats (R-IN), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Thad Cochran (R-MS), Susan Collins (R-ME), Bob Corker (R-TN), John Cornyn (R-TX), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Mike Crapo (R-ID), Jim DeMint (R-SC), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Dean Heller (R-NV), John Hoeven (R-ND), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), James Inhofe (R-OK), Johnny Isakson (R-GA), Mike Johanns (R-NE), Ron Johnson (R-WI), Jon Kyl (R-AZ), Mike Lee (R-UT), John McCain (R-AZ), Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Jerry Moran (R-KS), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Rand Paul (R-KY), Rob Portman (R-OH), Jim Risch (R-ID), Pat Roberts (R-KS), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Richard Shelby (R-AL), Olympia Snowe (R-ME), John Thune (R-SD), Pat Toomey (R-PA), David Vitter (R-LA), and Roger Wicker (R-MS).
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  • spasmcreek
    look at the social activists judges like the (WISE) latina &^%&^% that now sits in condemnation of our CONSTITUTION
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  • COBmmcmss
    This gun control treaty crap has been floating around the `net for some time now. The bottom line is that every group that has sounded the "alarm" appears to be looking for donations to fight it. Well, for those of you interested, here is the case that sets precedence well into our future.

    The Supreme Court of the United States ruled on this kind of thing in the late 50's. An international treaty CANNOT affect U.S. rights under our Constitution. CANNOT. An international accord that is inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution is void under domestic U.S. law, the same as any other federal law in conflict with the Constitution. This principle was most clearly established in the case of Reid v. Covert. [Reid v. Covert]

    In Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), as a landmark case, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the United States Senate. According to the decision, "...this Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty," although the case itself was with regard to an executive agreement and the treaty has never been ruled unconstitutional..."

    Right from our own Constitution Article VI, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, declares:
    "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;... ."

    Courtesy of COB
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  • A J Christ
    Way past the time to get the US out of the UN and then the UN out of the US.
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  • William81
    I am shocked.....Durbin from Illinois is not one of them...[}:)][;)]
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  • Navybat
    You know it's possible for the creator of the thread to EDIT the title of the thread, right?

    SECOND Amendment...with a D, not G...[:D]
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  • retroxler58
    I found a copy of the letter... As signed 22-July,2011
    Letter against UN Treaty

    And here's the list...
    45 of 47 Republican's signed NO Democraps..

    Senator Jerry Moran, Kansas (R)
    Senator John Hoeven, North Dakota (R)
    Senator Lamar Alexander, Tennessee (R)
    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Texas (R)
    Senator Kelly Ayotte, New Hampshire, (R)
    Senator James Inhofe, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator John Barrasso, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Johnny Isakson, Georgia (R)
    Senator Roy Blunt, Missouri (R)
    Senator Mike Johanns, Nebraska (R)
    Senator John Boozman, Arkansas (R)
    Senator Ronald Harold "Ron" Johnson, Wisconsin (R)
    Senator Scott Brown, Massachusetts (R)
    Senator Jon Kyl, Arizona (R)
    Senator Richard Burr, North Carolina (R)
    Senator Michael "Mike" Lee, Utah (R)
    Senator Saxby Chambliss, Georgia (R)
    Senator John McCain, Arizona (R)
    Senator Dan Coats, Indiana (R)
    Senator Mitch McConnell, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Tom Coburn, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator Rand Paul, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Thad Cochran, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Rob Portman, Ohio (R)
    Senator Susan Collins, Maine (R)
    Senator Pat Roberts, Kansas (R)
    Senator Bob Corker, Tennessee (R)
    Senator James E. Risch, Idaho (R)
    Senator John Cornyn, Texas (R)
    Senator Marco Rubio, Florida (R)
    Senator Mike Crapo, Idaho (R)
    Senator Jeff Sessions, Alabama (R)
    Senator Jim DeMint, South Carolina (R)
    Senator Richard Shelby, Alabama (D turned R)
    Senator Mike Enzi, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Olympia Snowe, Maine (R)
    Senator Lindsey Graham, South Carolina (R)
    Senator John Thune, South Dakota (R)
    Senator Chuck Grassley, Iowa (R)
    Senator Pat Toomey, Pennsylvania (R)
    Senator Orrin Hatch, Utah (R)
    Senator David Vitter, Louisiana (R)
    Senator Dean Heller, Nevada (R)
    Senator Roger Wicker, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Lisa Murkowski, Alaska (R)
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  • Navybat
    I think the UN was a great idea whose time has come and gone. It's toothless, dysfunctional, unable to police and enforce itself, and disrespected around the world.

    I agree, get the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US.
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  • sovereignman
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
    I found a copy of the letter... As signed 22-July,2011
    Letter against UN Treaty

    And here's the list...
    45 of 47 Republican's signed NO Democraps..

    Senator Jerry Moran, Kansas (R)
    Senator John Hoeven, North Dakota (R)
    Senator Lamar Alexander, Tennessee (R)
    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Texas (R)
    Senator Kelly Ayotte, New Hampshire, (R)
    Senator James Inhofe, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator John Barrasso, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Johnny Isakson, Georgia (R)
    Senator Roy Blunt, Missouri (R)
    Senator Mike Johanns, Nebraska (R)
    Senator John Boozman, Arkansas (R)
    Senator Ronald Harold "Ron" Johnson, Wisconsin (R)
    Senator Scott Brown, Massachusetts (R)
    Senator Jon Kyl, Arizona (R)
    Senator Richard Burr, North Carolina (R)
    Senator Michael "Mike" Lee, Utah (R)
    Senator Saxby Chambliss, Georgia (R)
    Senator John McCain, Arizona (R)
    Senator Dan Coats, Indiana (R)
    Senator Mitch McConnell, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Tom Coburn, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator Rand Paul, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Thad Cochran, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Rob Portman, Ohio (R)
    Senator Susan Collins, Maine (R)
    Senator Pat Roberts, Kansas (R)
    Senator Bob Corker, Tennessee (R)
    Senator James E. Risch, Idaho (R)
    Senator John Cornyn, Texas (R)
    Senator Marco Rubio, Florida (R)
    Senator Mike Crapo, Idaho (R)
    Senator Jeff Sessions, Alabama (R)
    Senator Jim DeMint, South Carolina (R)
    Senator Richard Shelby, Alabama (D turned R)
    Senator Mike Enzi, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Olympia Snowe, Maine (R)
    Senator Lindsey Graham, South Carolina (R)
    Senator John Thune, South Dakota (R)
    Senator Chuck Grassley, Iowa (R)
    Senator Pat Toomey, Pennsylvania (R)
    Senator Orrin Hatch, Utah (R)
    Senator David Vitter, Louisiana (R)
    Senator Dean Heller, Nevada (R)
    Senator Roger Wicker, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Lisa Murkowski, Alaska (R)

    I never expect the liberal socialist left to do anything that backs the Constitution. Socialists all. Just look at the video going around of Good old maxine....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3I-PVVowFY
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  • 45long
    Hey Navy, You forgot corrupt to a degree that only a Democrat can know and admire.
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