380 bodyguard
Anyone have any first hand experience with the new Smith and Wesson Bodyguard 380. Have read and seen a couple of bad reviews on youtube about trigger and jamming problems. I`m looking for something small and a little more compact for summertime concealed carry. As always,,, Thanks in advance.[:)]
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Wanted one also from the first time I saw one at the shot-show two years ago !!!
Update , busy selling them as fast as we could get them in the shop ,,, so , first "used" one came into the shop ! Its mine !!!
Now , it was only shot a 'few' times before (apx. 50 rnds) , I have ran apx. 200 rnds thru it with NO PROBLEMS ,! Its loaded now in my pocket !!!
Great !!!
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Gunsmith / LEO
Athens , Tn
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when I bought mine a few months back took it out and shot 2 or 3 mags thru it went of and ejected everytime.. Trigger pull aint for girly men but if it didnt have a strong t pull when pulling out might blow the cajones off.. It is a good safety when carrying in your pocket. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by o b juan
when I bought mine a few months back took it out and shot 2 or 3 mags thru it went of and ejected everytime.. Trigger pull aint for girly men but if it didnt have a strong t pull when pulling out might blow the cajones off.. It is a good safety when carrying in your pocket.
1. NRA gun safety rule #2: Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target. (Helps you avoid inadvertently blowing your family jewels off).
2. If you're going to be carrying in a pocket, a pocket holster is strongly advisable for the following reasons:
a. Keeps lint and pocket debris out of the guns action.
b. Keeps the triggerguard covered to help prevent accidents.
c. Keeps the gun consistently oriented within your pocket for a proper draw, and
d. Helps break up outline of gun, aiding concealment.
As to the gun itself, noted gun writer Wiley Clapp did a review of all the small .380s on the market about two years ago, and he found that with the exception of the nearly $1000 Rohrbaugh **ALL** of them were unreliable out of the box: Kel Tec, Ruger, Taurus, SIG, etc.
I think some of this is just "luck of the draw" (ie the condition of your particular gun), necessary break-in time for the light polymer guns, and maybe also ammo.
Smith is probably fine, if you like it, just make sure to test it thoroughly for reliability before trusting it for carry.
EDIT: responding to below
quote:OBJuan
of course I know that you keep finger off trigger til ready to fire
but the VERY HARD trigger pull on the body guard was probably made that way for mthe guys who cant remember to about finger..
How many cops in NY shot their Glock when drawing out of holster??
Giving Smith and Wesson credit for knowing what they are doing (which I think is fair), then you'd have to assume the trigger pull on their gun was deliberate.
On finger off trigger until sights are on target, knowing it is one thing. . .actually doing it 100% of the time is something else. If one is prone to pulling the trigger of their gun on draw, then I think its fair to say they shouldn't be carrying the gun to begin with. (IE at the very least they need quite a bit more training).
On Glocks, I don't know how many NY cops shoot their guns on the draw, but I can say the following:
a. The NYPD (which is the largest metropolitan police dept in the world, and is probably the one with the greatest number of shooting incidents on record) currently requires all its officers to carry their Glocks with heavy "NY triggers". They also do not allow single-action guns for duty or off-duty carry (with the possible exception of "grandfathered" duty guns by older cops). So its fair to say that the NYPD thinks a heavy trigger is a useful safety adjunct.
b. Many of the negligent discharges with Glocks in particular occur during takedown, because the Glock design requires you to pull the trigger in order to disassemble it.
I'm not sure what the 'lesson' here is, except maybe that its tough to undo human carelessness or stupidity!0 -
If you can live with something slightly larger/heavier you might consider the Glock 26/27/33 series pistols. They been on the market since the 90's. In my personal experience more reliable then the KelTec P 11 that I use to CCW. 0 -
Thanks, I currently carry a Glock 36 CC but was looking for something a little smaller and lighter for carring in the summer time. 0 -
of course I know that you keep finger off trigger til ready to fire
but the VERY HARD trigger pull on the body guard was probably made that way for mthe guys who cant remember to about finger..
How many cops in NY shot their Glock when drawing out of holster??0 -
Just bought a new body guard 380 at the local gun show. Shot a few rounds this afternoon. so far very inpressed with fit and finish. Shoots very well, IMHO a very good gun for Concealed carry. 0 -
I have close to 400 rounds through mine so far, it doesn't like CCI primers on my reloads, about one in thirty needs a second hammer strike to fire, but with factory ammo it has been flawless. Have been pretty impressed with it. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
If you can live with something slightly larger/heavier you might consider the Glock 26/27/33 series pistols. They been on the market since the 90's. In my personal experience more reliable then the KelTec P 11 that I use to CCW.
I ran into the same problem with my one Keltec P11. So since they are so inexpensive and have that built-in "holster" in the form of that clip on the frame, I just bought another one. Reason being it is cheaper and easier to carry two Keltec P11's than one larger, more expensive gun. It is almost easier to carry two P11's than one different larger brand and an extra magazine. Plus I feel confident that both guns won't malfunction at the same time. In fact, after I figured out the right ammo for the guns, I don't believe either gun will malfunction.0
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