Sig P220 Compact question
Anybody out there have any feedback on the P220 Compact? Are the P220 Compact and the P245 the same thing, or what's the difference?
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My recollection is the sig 245 was discontinued and the 220 compact took its place years ago. 0 -
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I haven't dealt with the P245 and don't know all it's design details, but according to SIG's parts list it's internals and controls show the same parts numbers as for the P220.0 -
Thanks, does anybody like 'em, hate 'em? Thanks for the info on the internals. 0 -
Outside of the P245 having the now discontinued style folded/two piece slide with it's older style internal extractor they're pretty much the same guns.
Their newer slide design milled from a single piece of steel was introduced on the P229. Due to it being simpler to manufacture SIG eventually phased out the old style on all their Classic Series pistols. Other than personal preference due to it's look this difference in slides isn't an issue for the user. If anything the older style has an advantage in that it's easier for the user to perform a full disassembly.
My understanding is that these were discontinued only due to sluggish sales at the time, mostly due to them having so little size reduction from the P220. However, it's notable that they've basically just reintroduced them with their newer slide style and a more descriptive model name.
The basic design of these pistols is well proven in everything from accuracy to reliability. I've been a SIG armorer for quite some time and can assure you that any of these SIG Classic Series types will serve you well. Whether you end up liking ir or not would mostly be an issue of how you like it's balance, concealability, etc. - and it's undoubtedly lower sticker price.0 -
The basic design of these pistols is well proven in everything from accuracy to reliability. I've been a SIG armorer for quite some time and can assure you that any of these SIG Classic Series types will serve you well. Whether you end up liking ir or not would mostly be an issue of how you like it's balance, concealability, etc. - and it's undoubtedly lower sticker price.
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Well, they're not that much cheaper. Can't decide on this gun, nobody seems to stock them so it's hard to tell. I do like the fact that all my magazines and holsters would still work. You said you're an armorer, what do you think of the Sig SAO P220s?0 -
My agency issues only DA/SA SIGs so I really have little time with their SAO stuff.
However, considering that besides this trigger action and manual safety system their design is the same as a standard P220 I'd say that in all probability they're excellent shooters. Whether you go with SA/DA or SAO with one of these really boils down to a matter of personal preference.
As an aside, considering that you're talking about a compact model it's safe to assume it'll be your concealed carry gun. A feature of some of their sub-models I'd avoid if possible is the beavertail frame design. The grip is the portion of a pistol that's tough to keep concealed under light clothing and that swept up tail tends to print heavily, especially when sitting, bending over, etc.
I'd suggest keeping your eye out for one of SIG's Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) P220 Compacts. These are used pistols which have returned to the factory for a refurbishment which includes a full disassembly/detailed inspection, replacement of any parts required, all new springs and refinishing if necessary. Considering the MANY thousands of rounds these pistols are good for and the relatively low number the average owner puts through one of these, you're getting a good as new pistol straight from the factory at a better price.0 -
Thanks for the advice, didn't even think about trying to conceal the beavertail frame. I live in an open carry state that just passed free concealed carry for all residents that aren't felons. I use a Glock 17 at work and have had alot of people try to get me to switch to Glock but I just like Sig too much. I wish they weren't so hard to find. I really wish we carried Sigs.
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My agency issues only DA/SA SIGs so I really have little time with their SAO stuff.
However, considering that besides this trigger action and manual safety system their design is the same as a standard P220 I'd say that in all probability they're excellent shooters. Whether you go with SA/DA or SAO with one of these really boils down to a matter of personal preference.
As an aside, considering that you're talking about a compact model it's safe to assume it'll be your concealed carry gun. A feature of some of their sub-models I'd avoid if possible is the beavertail frame design. The grip is the portion of a pistol that's tough to keep concealed under light clothing and that swept up tail tends to print heavily, especially when sitting, bending over, etc.
I'd suggest keeping your eye out for one of SIG's Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) P220 Compacts. These are used pistols which have returned to the factory for a refurbishment which includes a full disassembly/detailed inspection, replacement of any parts required, all new springs and refinishing if necessary. Considering the MANY thousands of rounds these pistols are good for and the relatively low number the average owner puts through one of these, you're getting a good as new pistol straight from the factory at a better price.0
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