Silencer
Are silencers legal. I need to control some vermin but I do not want to create noise.
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would a silencer work on a revolver? if not why? many thanks 0 -
Keystone... I believe the Fed tax is $200 and they are properly called suppressors. You have to wait until they do your background check and you get your papers in order.
There are several makers of suppressors and their expected life may vary from make to make. It will likely cost $300 to $400 for the suppressor.0 -
Before the feds will let you buy one, you have to jump threw their hoops.
1, It has to be legal to own a silencer in your State and City of residence.
2, The chief law enforcement officer of either your city or county has to give his approval in writing, to the feds.
3, You have to fill out their federal forms and provide finger print cards and $200 one time fee that they call a tax stamp.
4, After all the above are in their hands, they will investigate you, and only after they deem you worthy and send you their approval can you go shopping and buy your silencer.0 -
Thanks Guys! 0 -
You may want to do a search on "suppressor" & "silencer" on the ATE forum. This is a specialized area, & can make your head spin with so much you have to learn.
You must use subsonic ammo, or a suppressor doesn't help.
You have to use a threaded barrel, or have it threaded, or have an adaptor added, or, better yet, use an integral suppressor.
Semi-autos must be tuned for the ammo you will use, which means the recoil spring must be changed or altered.
Until you become an expert, your best bet is to just go to your local Class 3 dealer who is also a Class 3 repair facility, & pay him for everything. That way, HE is responsible for making sure that the gun works as HE has promised.
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Since a suppressor is defined by the Feds as a firearm, transfer will need to go thru a Class III dealer. Shop for a dealer, THEN shop for a suppressor. For a .22, about $300 and UP, plus Fed transfer tax. 0 -
Lots of half-info on this thread.
drop me a line, been recommending Revocable Living Trusts to forego the idiotic and anachronistic "CLEO" signature and fingerprints. Half the wait time.
The best .22 suppressor out there will cost you about 500 bucks (it's also rated for 5.7, .22mag, .17HMR and .17M2) but cleaned and maintained it'll outlast you or me. Leaps forward in design have been made in the last 10 years, with suppressors you can take apart by hand even after thousands of rounds of dirty .22.
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quote:Originally posted by DRP-AZ
Lots of half-info on this thread.
drop me a line, been recommending Revocable Living Trusts to forego the idiotic and anachronistic "CLEO" signature and fingerprints. Half the wait time.
No offense to DRP-AZ but as soon as the bottom feeding leftest liberal politions figure out the living trust dodge is a workaround to get your hands on Class 3 stuff without CLEO approval. They are going to be broadcasting it from the front page of the New York Times and all the other liberal media. The feds will start pooping their panties and making big time problems for the folks who have gone that route.0 -
I think a little bit of it might be covered here, http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=365687
When buying a can you need to decide what is most important to you and put these things in order.
Price
Materials
Mount style
Weight
Size
Brand
Example is if you want a larger, steel (heavier) thread mount silencer with basic baffles in it the price will be less then a small, light weight (Aluminum or Titanium) QD mount silencers with advanced baffles in it.
If a guy was only going to use it on a rifle then it may not matter. If you are going to use it on a pistol too then the size and weight will make a difference.0 -
Congress made the trusts legal.
Congress would have to outlaw them.
Not going to happen.
BATFE can't do Schitt about them.
My beneficiaries have about 55 items in my schedule A of my trust for them.
CP0 -
Just as a point of information, most conventional 40 grain lead "target" .22LR ammo is, in fact, subsonic by design.
So you don't necessarily have to buy specially labelled "subsonic" ammo to get quiet performance from your .22 with a suppressor. You just have to make sure the ammo you use is subsonic from your given platform (ie its more likely to be from a pistol than a rifle!).
On trusts and the law:
a. Federal gun control laws are basically fixed in the current political climate. New gun control packages are simply not going to pass in the current "Tea Party" House climate.
b. Trusts for class 3 guns and the like simply are not on anybody's radar screen anyway. Nobody is going to try crack down on that "loophole" until and unless someone important is provably shot with a gun or suppressor acquired that way, and I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen anytime soon.0
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