shotgun pattern
i am a new shooter and would like to go to some meat shoots.i recently bought a full choke 36"goose gun with the idea that longer was better for tight patterns.apparently i was wrong this gun shoots no tighter than my 20"mossberg pump or my non back bored 26"browning bps.is it just pot luck or does a particular type,make,or lenght make a difference?does the back bored guns put more in the center of a target?also i would appreciate it if anyone out there would share what type they have that is a particularly good meat shooter.
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Tight patterns are achieved through a very good choke. That is the last 3 or 4 inches of the barrel. How the choke is tapered and to what degree is important. "Full chokes" vary by manufacturer in the amount of constriction to achieve a full choke (70% of pellets in a 30 inch circle at 40 yards). Length of barrel has little to do with choke since most of the usable powder and velocity is achieved in about 20 inches of barrel. Pellet size and hardness, type of wads and buffering all contribute to tighter patterns. Some reloaders can achieve near 100% patterns this way. What is a "meat shoot"? Is this where you try to hit a very small + at about 40 yards with one pellet with a factory load? 0 -
I don't know were you will b e hunting, buty wife and I have been goose hunting on the eastern shore of Maryland for years, mostly out of blinds. Around here typical shots are 20 to 35 yards. The most common chokes used here for geese are IC or ligh mod. If you hit an in comer at 20 yds with a full choke it's going to look like it went through a shredder. 0 -
Here we go again... This question gets asked quite a bit, but that's okay.
By meat shoot I assume you are at a get together and you all shoot and whomevers pellet is closest to the center wins a turkey or something of the like.
Pattern is dependant on choke and the type of shot simply changing the barrel length will not effect pattern. For a "meat shot" I'd be using an extrafull turkey choke or a full.
Shotguns and chokes are like a rifle you may have to pattern several loads with different chokes to find the right combination one.
Backbored guns like the 835 or 935 are supposed to hold a more consistent pattern with turkey/duck loads.0 -
quote:Originally posted by tone59
i am a new shooter and would like to go to some meat shoots.i recently bought a full choke 36"goose gun with the idea that longer was better for tight patterns.apparently i was wrong this gun shoots no tighter than my 20"mossberg pump or my non back bored 26"browning bps.is it just pot luck or does a particular type,make,or lenght make a difference?does the back bored guns put more in the center of a target?also i would appreciate it if anyone out there would share what type they have that is a particularly good meat shooter.
Apart from quality of the shell used (pellet roundness, pellet hardness, buffer, and consistency) the single most important factor in getting a good pattern is the choke.
Barrel length is effectively irrelevant.
Pretty much the ONLY things a long barrel do for you are to give you a longer sighting radius and (much more important) change the weight distribution and "swing" of your gun. Longer barrels "swing" slower and will conversely "sit" on a fixed target easier.
Back boring can help reduce pattern diameter, mainly by having less compression/deformation of pellets, so you get fewer out-of-round pellets that act as "fliers". Back-boring may reduce overall shot string length, but that's somewhat of a different thing than pattern diameter.0 -
zimmden...yes a meat shoot is where u get 1 bench rest shot from 21 yards with ammo supplied by whoever holds the event.the shooter that gets closest to the center of a tiny x at the center of their individual card(approx 8"x6")wins whatever the prize is(ham,pork loin,bacon,cash etc.)for that round of shooting.the more tiny holes the gun is capable of concentrating in the center of the card the better. 0 -
i have built many match shoot guns in the past ans have done alot of shooting at these shoots. it all depends on what kind of shoot you are talking about. whats the distance? what shells are they using? what size is the tightest choke allowed? is this a board shoot or a card shoot? 1 shot or 2 shots? this game can get really complicated. if you want you can email me and i will try to help you out. don
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Get to the range and shoot some trap...
Then hang some paper at 35 yards and see what you have.
If your mossberg fails get a bigger ga.
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tone I have found that whatever gun that you use the best is to have a full choke or an extra full turkey choke. I know that alot of meat shoots that I have been to that they check the guns in before you can shoot and some of them will not allow an extra full. One thing that I would do is to clean my gun with a bore snake after every round of shooting this I have found has helped me win a few times. 0 -
I have 2 different guns and 4 barrels ,depending on what ammo is used .
Your gun may have a sorry pattern with AA #9 ,but be a winner with Wagner 2/2/10's .
Yardage also has to be taken into account .
Main thing is to go and have fun ![;)]0
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