Browning 22 auto rifle serial number
I have a Browning 22 Auto rifle made in Belgium, and can't find the serial number on the receiver where Browning says it is located. (on the right rear side) The only numbers I can find are around the magazine tube fitting in the rear of the stock. (T83XXX) Any ideas? Thanks!
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A call to Browning would be in order. 0 -
According to Homer Tyler's book on Browning .22 caliber rifles that is one of the possibly two locations where the serial number would show up for a rifle made in 1960 (SerNo T83xxx).
ADDED: I'm not up to date with the market value of these type rifles, but what little first hand knowledge that I do have them is as follows: 1 - The Grade 1's be they Belgian or Japanese era bring pretty much Blue Book Gun Value prices as a norm, and: 2 - The Grade three Belgian engraved signed pieces assembled in Japan bring double the prices noted for those of Japanese mfg. That said, a Grade 1 Belgian made in .22 LR shows a 98%, (photo percentage grading system), at $700.00 with 25% premium for the wheel-sight. As to a rifle in just Very Good condition with the same grading system, one might have an 80% gun which would have an estimated BBGV of $440.00.
The above info is about all I can help you with, but if you don't have much in the rifle, then your best bet might be to take the best pictures possible and post it on auction at a penny with no reserve, especially since it is missing the wheel sight. I'm not normally an advocate of such auctions, but how much I have in a piece that is not rare, for example, would play an important role in the type auction I choose. This, plus the fact that the Browning Automatic Rifle .22 is highly popular to begin with might get the bid/interest going resulting in a very fair market value for your rifle.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck on your auction.
Added: In view of all the different type auctions that GB offers, and the legitimate comments herein, reserve auctions still have their place.0 -
Thanks, KIMI, I dang near took the whole thing apart trying to find any more numbers. It is missing the "wheel" rear sight, but is in otherwise VG-Ex condition. An old friend wants to sell it due to losing his job, so I'm trying to value it before listing on GB. 0 -
Now that you know that it is > 50 years old, you will be able to ship it to a C&R, which may increase the actual selling price.
Wheel sights are extremely difficult to locate, so it will take a big hit there.
It's difficult to put a "value" on any gun without seeing photos; it's even more difficult to sell one without photos.
Neal
EDIT: A "reserve" is a tool dreamed up by some enterprising auctioneer a long time ago to encourage a skittish (& not very bright) seller to list an item with him. It is of no value, as the seller can just make his starting price the minimum he is willing to accept. Reserves are used for many auctions, not just guns, & reserves discourage bidders at all of them.0 -
Neal, thanks for the reply. I will get pics with as much detail as I can show, and post them here before listing.
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a 1 cent start for a gun worth 700 ? put a reserve on it 0 -
"put a reserve on it".............NO, THIS WILL ELIMINATE ABOUT 1/2 OF THE POTENTIAL BIDDERS. IT WILL SELL FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
AS TO THE SER. # HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE FRONT OF THE RECEIVER?0 -
RESERVE will most likely reduce the price it will sell at because many of the people that buy guns here edit out all reserve auctions. Many items with reserves have run over and over for years so we don't waste our time looking at reserve auctions, 0 -
yes you have said that before...why have reserve if you don't think it should be used ?
hard to get a steal if theres a reserve?0 -
quote:Originally posted by control
yes you have said that before...why have reserve if you don't think it should be used ?
hard to get a steal if theres a reserve?
quote:a 1 cent start for a gun worth 700 ? put a reserve on it
Instead of running off at what you don't have a clue about, you should read all of the postings, and try to comprehend what they are saying.
1. Most serious collectors and buyers, will not bid on a reserve auction. That accounts for at the very LEAST 50% of the bidding population here on Gunbroker. I know that from selling experience here.
2. If you are scared of getting burned, START the auction at the minimum price of which you would accept, instead of running a reserve. People would rather see the minimum out in the open, instead of hidden
3. If you start it at a lower than minimum accetable price, you are apt to start a bidding war, which in turn, most of the time will run the price up beyond your wildest dreams.
This all comes from experience selling on here, and also buying.
Best0 -
I have watched on here fo over 2 years and have seen how it works.
tyvm for your concern for my well being0 -
I'll have a sane starting price, you can be assured. I'm getting some flak from the owner's Father. He has an inflated idea as to the gun's worth. I have explained that with a replaced rear sight, slightly buggered up scope groove, and the other handling marks, it is simply a really good "shooter", not a museum piece.
Thanks for all your replies, I really do appreciate them.0 -
quote:Originally posted by grdad45
I'll have a sane starting price, you can be assured. I'm getting some flak from the owner's Father. He has an inflated idea as to the gun's worth. I have explained that with a replaced rear sight, slightly buggered up scope groove, and the other handling marks, it is simply a really good "shooter", not a museum piece.
Thanks for all your replies, I really do appreciate them.
Good luck grdad!0
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