Winchester 21 assembly
I am the proud new owner of a Model 21 skeet grade, 2 barrel set that I purchased at the Cody show last week. It came cased so the barrel and receiver were not assembled together. I am having trouble assembling the receiver, barrel and fore end assembly together.
The receiver appears to be in the uncocked position as both firing pins protrude equally in the fired position from the breech face. All efforts to cock the receiver have failed. Schwing's directions for assembly on page 355-356 of his Model 21 book are somewhat confusing in that regard.
Can anyone clarify how to cock a dismantled Model 21 receiver. I don't want to dink around and my heavy hammer hasn't worked yet. The pipe wrench is next!!
Fishydr.
The receiver appears to be in the uncocked position as both firing pins protrude equally in the fired position from the breech face. All efforts to cock the receiver have failed. Schwing's directions for assembly on page 355-356 of his Model 21 book are somewhat confusing in that regard.
Can anyone clarify how to cock a dismantled Model 21 receiver. I don't want to dink around and my heavy hammer hasn't worked yet. The pipe wrench is next!!
Fishydr.
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Try the Vice Grips or you can use a Dremel to grind away the parts that interfere with each other in closing[}:)].
Bert or Spider should be able to tell you . Good decision to ask before causing big $$$ damage.0 -
Take the forearm off the barrel, install the barrel on the receiver (action closed) and replace the forearm. Open the action and the the shotgun will cock.
If this isn't the method, I can't wait to hear what is.0 -
Yep thats it, remove the forearm. Push the top lever on reciever to the right until it clicks. Put barrels on hinge and then slighly move them to the rear as you close it to frame. lock it to frame making sure top lever is now at 6:00. install forearm gingerly, and open barrels to cock.
You should try this when the gun is in pieces.....[:0] Hit me with an email if you dont get it and I'll talk you thru it. Todd
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You can accomplish the same thing without the barrels by pushing the cocking leavers against a hard wood surface. The cocking leaver is the short pin potruding fron the round surface at the front of the reciever. Downward preasure on each pin will cock the corisponding Bbl. 0 -
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I expected that those protruding pins played a role for cocking the firing pins. I believe they also play some role in the auto ejectors as well. Each side has two projecting pins, one is longer and slightly rounded while the other is shorter and square tipped.
Which pin do I push and in which direction? What position should the thumb lever above the top tang be in when I apply the pin pressure, open or closed? What role does the square tipped pin play? I have tried pressing both with a wooden block without success. How much pressure can I expect to use?
Thank you so much for your help so far.
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In this case the top leaver doesn't come into play at all. I would just turn the reciever on it's side (either way) and with the longer round ended pin firmly up against a piece of hardwood, move the action in a motion that drives (rotates) the pin toward the bottom of the reciever. It won't have to move far to cock the hammer. Expect to exeret some effort. Just imagin the bbls being in place and the direction they would move the pins everything were in place. 0 -
What is the reason for wanting to cock the hammers without using the barrels? Sure, its good to know how it works but the risks of dropping it, scratching it, or something else going wrong seems high.
Fishdr: I emailed you my phone number. I have also dissasembled one of my 21's and fired the hammers while it is in the broken down position. I then reassembled and recocked. It doesnt go together as smooth when the hammers are fired but it does go. putting on the barrels takes a little more wiggling as does the fore end. Once its reassembled you should be able to open the gun, and the ejectors will go off, as the hammers recock.0 -
The gun came in a presentation case and the barrel was removed from the receiver. Apparently the previous owner believed that he had to relieve the pressure of the firing pin spring to extend the life of the spring. Reinstalling just the barrel did nothing to recock the firing pins. When I attempted to install the forearm, so much pressure would have been needed to seat the forearm that it surely would have been damaged or split. The forearm alone was unable to move the cocking pins.
I positioned the receiver in such a way that I could apply extreme downward pressure on the cocking pins. I took exceptional care to protect the receiver from any scratches or damage. Using a hardwood block, and pressing downward using considerable strength, I was able to cock the firing pins and they retracted back into the standing breech face as I expected they would.
I mounted the barrels in the normal fashion and now the forearm snapped firmly into place. I opened the shotgun, inserted two snap caps, closed the gun and pulled the trigger twice. The gun performed perfectly and ejected normally, cocking once again upon opening.
Thank you all for your help and suggestions. The piece looks beautiful and handles wonderfully. I can't wait to take it into the field.
Fishydr0
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