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Need an approx value for a Winchester M 94

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Buffalo Bill Commerative chambered in 30/30. This rifle is Unfired and in excellent condition, although it does have a few very minor handling marks on it. It has been in a safe for years. I don't currently have a box for it, but the original owner is trying to find it. Any ideas? Thanks!

BTW...this is a rifle version with a 26" octagon barrel.
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  • gjshaw
    With or without the box?
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  • rufe-snow
    As the previous poster noted, Commemoratives have to be NIB in the original box(es) with all paperwork and accessories to get top buck from collectors who are interested in them. I've seen them going over them with a magnifying glass looking for imperfections.

    If your rifle doesn't have original box(es) and accessories that it was shipped from Winchester with, it will be a tough to sell for top dollar unless the prospective buyer has original replacements.
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  • Spider7115
    Rifle or carbine?
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  • Grasshopper
    500-550
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  • babun
    Sorry, and you can delete this after you read it, BUT, do you have a fishing License?
    Because now you are trolling..............[}:)]
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  • Spider7115
    There are quite a few on the auction side in the $500 range and one for $415 with no bids. I would start it at $400 with no reserve. Purist collectors want the box & paperwork.
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  • tsr1965
    As stated in prvious threads, most commeratives are a block of firearms purchased from the factory, by a refinisher, who then pimps up the fire arm in order to draw an extravigant issure price. When it comes to resale, they usually do not sell for much more than their contemporary counterparts.

    Most likely the best price you will get out of it, would be around $500.00-600.00ish in a good economy.

    Best

    EDIT 1

    Yes, Bert H is correct, mostly. Not ALL commeratives were made and issued by Winchester though. The ones that were made by, or for Winchester, hold their value somewhat. An example of one that most people were not offered was the IAM commerative, which was made to honor the relationship between Winchester, and the International Areospace & Machinist Union. Those were the folks who worked for USRAC, making the Winchester labeled guns.

    Then there were the ones that were made for the embelishment shops, like the Franklin Mint, and America Remembers. Those are the onew that were poor investments in the making.

    Best
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  • Bert H.
    Just to clear this up a bit, Commemoratives are not a block of firearms purchased from the factory and sent out for embellishment. Special edition and Limited edtition guns fit that description. Authentic Winchester Commemorative Model 94s were 100% factory made and sold.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    There are quite a few on the auction side in the $500 range and one for $415 with no bids. I would start it at $400 with no reserve. Purist collectors want the box & paperwork.



    Thanks. I knew most commeratives were not worth all that much...but you never know and I cannot find anything in the book about this gun.
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  • givette
    Three grades (by desireability) of firearms featuring a 'theme'..

    1. Made into the theme by Winchester, and sold by Winchester through the Winchester chain-of-supply (most desirable)
    2. Made into theme by Winchester under order of an outside contractor and usually sold, or, at least, jobbered by the contractor through Winchester (middle desirable)
    3. Not made by Winchester. Firearms left the factory in standard condition, and the theme added to the firearm by an outside source (least desireable).

    The Franklin mint, and the American Remembers firearms, etc. fall into either the No2, or No3 slot. Always ask, or if the seller can't satisfy your question, then you should research which [of the three categories listed] any firearm featuring a 'theme' falls under.

    For instance, in TSR's post, the IAM commemorative: If Winchester ordered the run, then it's No1. If IAM ordered Winchester to make the run, then it's a contract gun, and falls into the No2 category. Best, Joe
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  • babun
    quote:Originally posted by AAAC
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    There are quite a few on the auction side in the $500 range and one for $415 with no bids. I would start it at $400 with no reserve. Purist collectors want the box & paperwork.



    Thanks. I knew most commeratives were not worth all that much...but you never know and I cannot find anything in the book about this gun.

    27 th edition Blue book
    Page 1851
    "1968 Buffalo Bill rifle....100%= $495 issue price=$130

    { the CARBINE is $475....the "1 of 300" rifle is $2750}
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