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Spartacus
machine gun "kits" with cut receivers. are they still considered a gun, or can they be sold w/o FFL?
is there a difference in classification for flame cut vs sawn receivers?

I showed my FFL a saw cut smg receiver and all internal full auto parts that was offered to me. he said he thought it was still a smg as far as transfers go.

i have an m16 parts kit that i bought w/o FFL transfer. I was told it was legal to own as long as i didn't have a compatible receiver.

is a cut receiver still a receiver?
thanks
tom
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  • fordsix
    just a parts kit no FFL needed
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  • mark christian
    With the exception of Washington State, where machine gun parts are restricted, the DEMILed items are just parts. The procedure for DEMILing receivers has changed quite a bit over the past 20 years (saw cuts are no longer allowed on new imports) but existing DEMILs which were saw cut back in the day are fine.
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  • andrewsw16
    Gosh, I wonder if anyone has ever thought about buying those saw cut machine gun receivers and welding them back together, beating out that pesky need to file for federal full auto transfer? Wow. I'll bet the BATFE guys have NEVER thought of that one or even have a penalty for it. LOL [:D]
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  • rsnyder55
    I'm confused. I was under the impression that just owning the M16 parts that would convert an AR15 to full auto was illegal.
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  • fordsix
    owning M16 FA parts and a AR15 type rifle is no no
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  • rsnyder55
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    owning M16 FA parts and a AR15 type rifle is no no


    I was told even without owning an AR15 it was a no no. Is that not true?
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  • nmyers
    Not true.

    You can own an AR-type rifle & any M16 full auto parts you want, & it is legal. ATF strongly recommends that you NOT install certain M16 fire control parts in your AR; if you do, AND the gun fires > once with a single trigger pull, then you are in deep trouble. The rifle could go FA due to parts wear, manipulation (including use of tools), or welding on scraps of metal; it doesn't matter, you have screwed the pooch.

    The only group of AR parts that is considered an illegal machine gun if not registered (even without the rifle) is the AR-15 DIAS (Drop In Auto Sear).

    Neal
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  • andrewsw16
    Please buy your heroin and morphine from our PO Box. We PROMISE no records will be kept. Personal checks honored. [:D]
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