Military surplus 30-06
I have a Remington 740 semi auto can I run this ammo through my 30-06 without any problems?
Thanks
Jeff
Thanks
Jeff
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How old surplus?
I would not run corrosive primed ammo in a 740 because you cannot get at the gas system to clean it like you can a Garand.
The reason .30 carbine ammunition was specified as noncorrosive from the start.0 -
Post 1954 US military is considered safe. There are some dates of 06 before then that are safe but I don't know them offhand. I've shot a lot of SL 52 w/o problems but I clean everything with Hoppes #9. Refrain from enjoying yourself too much and overheating your barrel. 0 -
Define any problems. If you mean will the rifle blow up then the answer is no, but firing a lot of surplus military ammo through any hunting rifle is not going to be doing it a favor. In comparison to military primers sporting ammo primers are soft so if you run a lot of surplus ammo through the rifle a broken firing pin will probably surface relatively soon. If the ammo is corrosive the rifle will fail pretty quickly for the reason that Hawk already mentioned. There are other potential issues but we need to know more specifics about the ammo, but this was information that you felt no need to share with us. 0 -
Remington 7400's have weak hammer springs and I am guessing 740's do as well. Military ammo has tough primers and I would be surprised if you 740 can set one off. 0 -
One of my nephews tried running some Igman (headstamped IK) surplus .30-06 through his 742, but the extractor pulled through the rim, leaving the empty stuck in the chamber. This was probably due to high pressure/excessive bolt velocity, and not weak brass. Like Mark Christian said, there are a multitude of unknown variables... 0 -
Cases usually stick in these rifles for three reasons:
1. chamber is dirty or rusty
2. brass case is dirty or corroded
3. improperly sized/trimmed brass case if using reloads(needs small base sizing die).
Extraction is plenty stout enough if the extractor pulled through the rim. The gas system is obviously up to the task. Soooooooooo.......clean the darn chamber. Saw this so many times it makes me yawn.
The nature of the rifle makes this inconvenient compared to a bolt action.
When the malfunction gets to this point take it to a gunsmith and have the barrel pulled and the chamber thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Then from then on, clean the chamber using a flexible shaft cleaning rod,etc.0 -
quote:Originally posted by azpowerwagon
Cases usually stick in these rifles for three reasons:
1. chamber is dirty or rusty
2. brass case is dirty or corroded
3. improperly sized/trimmed brass case if using reloads(needs small base sizing die).
Extraction is plenty stout enough if the extractor pulled through the rim. The gas system is obviously up to the task. Soooooooooo.......clean the darn chamber. Saw this so many times it makes me yawn.
The nature of the rifle makes this inconvenient compared to a bolt action.
When the malfunction gets to this point take it to a gunsmith and have the barrel pulled and the chamber thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Then from then on, clean the chamber using a flexible shaft cleaning rod,etc.
The chamber and the ammunition were both clean. The IK lot was imported on M1919 links, and ammunition intended for MG use is often over standard pressure. The ammunition was also tried in an M1 Garand, which pulled the extractor through the rim as well, also leaving the case stuck in the chamber. Go yawningly condescend somewhere else - powerlesswagon.0 -
The problem with military surplus is often the low cost or no cost for old dcm 06 makes the tendency to be overused in sport rifles...
The Remington 7400's series has a light frame. Military surplus could lead to problems over time.0 -
quote:Originally posted by machine gun moran
quote:Originally posted by azpowerwagon
Cases usually stick in these rifles for three reasons:
1. chamber is dirty or rusty
2. brass case is dirty or corroded
3. improperly sized/trimmed brass case if using reloads(needs small base sizing die).
Extraction is plenty stout enough if the extractor pulled through the rim. The gas system is obviously up to the task. Soooooooooo.......clean the darn chamber. Saw this so many times it makes me yawn.
The nature of the rifle makes this inconvenient compared to a bolt action.
When the malfunction gets to this point take it to a gunsmith and have the barrel pulled and the chamber thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Then from then on, clean the chamber using a flexible shaft cleaning rod,etc.
The chamber and the ammunition were both clean. The IK lot was imported on M1919 links, and ammunition intended for MG use is often over standard pressure. The ammunition was also tried in an M1 Garand, which pulled the extractor through the rim as well, also leaving the case stuck in the chamber. Go yawningly condescend somewhere else - powerlesswagon.
Let's backup a little here.
That the ammo is linked is of no matter. I have a few cans that haven't been de-linked yet. The can is Lake City (LC)*, and marked 4 Ball M2 1 TR M25.
The ball M2 in the can is exactly the same as the ball M2 in eight-round en-bloc clips for the M1 garand. If it were overpressure for machineguns, it wouldn't have the M2 designation.
*The 'IG' headstamped ammo, at least the lot you have been using, is either 1. not within the burn rate, or 2. not within the charge pressure of ball M2
Best, Joe0 -
I was under the impression that military 30-06 was underpowered compared to commercial and that is why it is unwise to shoot commercial 30-06 in a Garand? 0
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