IVER JOHNSON "RING TRIGGER" 12 GA BARREL QUESTION
I have an Iver Johnson "ring trigger" 12 ga. with a ruined barrel"barrel is cut to 20" and is oval shaped at the muzzle end..with a REAL bad gouge from the muzzle back about 2 more inches...rest of the barrel is a mirror bore...Not sure what happened here,but, whatever it was,,,it was serious
.My question is: will any barrels from other IJ single barrels fit this reciever,or, do I have to have one from a "ring trigger" gun.
Thanks for any help I may get.
.My question is: will any barrels from other IJ single barrels fit this reciever,or, do I have to have one from a "ring trigger" gun.
Thanks for any help I may get.
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Can't answer your question, but doubt other barrels will work.
It sounds like you're wanting to shoot it and bad idea, as it's a black powder era gun. Here's what the late IJ author Bill Goforth had to say:
Re: Iver Johnson Shotgun with Ring trigger barrel latch
this model is not exactly rare but not seen very often. two versions and a junior model see below. the improved model 1900 version is the only one offered in 16 gauge.
IVER JOHNSON EJECTOR SEMI-HAMMERLESS
(Ring Trigger)
1897-1899
Semi-hammerless (hammer does not have a spur) single barrel; ring trigger break open mechanism (ring in front of trigger opens action); 12 gauge only; 28, 30 or 32 inch plain twist steel barrel choked; rebounding hammer; automatic ejector; American Black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; cased hardened frame and browned barrel; Weight 7 pounds; overall length with 28 inch barrel 43 _ inches.
VALUE: 100%=$325 60%=$155
IVER JOHNSON EJECTOR SEMI-HAMMERLESS IMPROVED MODEL 1900
(Ring Trigger)
1900-1908
Semi-hammerless break open single barrel shotgun; ring in front of trigger opens action; 12 and 16 gagues; 28,30,32 and 34 inch barrels; barrel now manufactured in U.S.A.; rebounding hammer; automatic ejector; improved barrel take down; American Black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; casehardened frame and browned barrel; Weight with 30 inch barrel 6? pounds; Overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches.
VALUE: 100%=$300 60%=$135
IVER JOHNSON EJECTOR SEMI-HAMMERLESS JUNIOR MODEL
(Ring Trigger)
1901-1908
Single barrel semi-hammerless break open shotgun (ring in front of trigger opens barrel); rebounding hammer; single locking bolt; shorten butt stock; American Black walnut butt stock and fore-end; hard rubber butt plate; 12 and 16 gauge; 26 and 28 inch barrels; case hardened receiver and browned barrel; weight with 26 inch barrel5 ? lbs., 28 inch barrel 6 pounds; overall length about 40 inches.
VALUE: RARE 100%=$300 60%=$135
because of their age these shotguns should be retired. iver johnson did not make the change to smokeless powder until 1908.
bill__________________
Author:
Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-19930 -
Most likely that shotgun saw military action in the trenchs. The chopped and slightly flattened barrel was a common practice so as to allow the shot pattern to sweep across a trench during warfare. The 2 inch gouge is from the press that flattened the barrel. It is a black powder gun. Its not a good idea to shoot modern smokeless powder through it as it has higher pressures than black powder. It is now a wall hanger and possibly could be collectible if it has military cartouches. Hope this sheds some light on the issue. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by hrf
Can't answer your question, but doubt other barrels will work.
It sounds like you're wanting to shoot it and bad idea, as it's a black powder era gun. Here's what the late IJ author Bill Goforth had to say:
Re: Iver Johnson Shotgun with Ring trigger barrel latch
Not really wanting to shoot it....just thought ,I'd like to have a good barrel.....now, I see from another answer, that it might have been used in the trenches and what I thought was a blown barrel is in reality, "a trench gun with a GI made "spreader" barrel....very interesting.
this model is not exactly rare but not seen very often. two versions and a junior model see below. the improved model 1900 version is the only one offered in 16 gauge.
IVER JOHNSON EJECTOR SEMI-HAMMERLESS
(Ring Trigger)
1897-1899
Semi-hammerless (hammer does not have a spur) single barrel; ring trigger break open mechanism (ring in front of trigger opens action); 12 gauge only; 28, 30 or 32 inch plain twist steel barrel choked; rebounding hammer; automatic ejector; American Black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; cased hardened frame and browned barrel; Weight 7 pounds; overall length with 28 inch barrel 43 _ inches.
VALUE: 100%=$325 60%=$155
IVER JOHNSON EJECTOR SEMI-HAMMERLESS IMPROVED MODEL 1900
(Ring Trigger)
1900-1908
Semi-hammerless break open single barrel shotgun; ring in front of trigger opens action; 12 and 16 gagues; 28,30,32 and 34 inch barrels; barrel now manufactured in U.S.A.; rebounding hammer; automatic ejector; improved barrel take down; American Black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; casehardened frame and browned barrel; Weight with 30 inch barrel 6? pounds; Overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches.
VALUE: 100%=$300 60%=$135
IVER JOHNSON EJECTOR SEMI-HAMMERLESS JUNIOR MODEL
(Ring Trigger)
1901-1908
Single barrel semi-hammerless break open shotgun (ring in front of trigger opens barrel); rebounding hammer; single locking bolt; shorten butt stock; American Black walnut butt stock and fore-end; hard rubber butt plate; 12 and 16 gauge; 26 and 28 inch barrels; case hardened receiver and browned barrel; weight with 26 inch barrel5 ? lbs., 28 inch barrel 6 pounds; overall length about 40 inches.
VALUE: RARE 100%=$300 60%=$135
because of their age these shotguns should be retired. iver johnson did not make the change to smokeless powder until 1908.
bill__________________
Author:
Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-19930 -
quote:Originally posted by Garth
Most likely that shotgun saw military action in the trenchs. The chopped and slightly flattened barrel was a common practice so as to allow the shot pattern to sweep across a trench during warfare. The 2 inch gouge is from the press that flattened the barrel. It is a black powder gun. Its not a good idea to shoot modern smokeless powder through it as it has higher pressures than black powder. It is now a wall hanger and possibly could be collectible if it has military cartouches. Hope this sheds some light on the issue.
Thanks for the info....I'll check the gun for military marks...very interesting .0
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