Erma KGP-68A .380 Short ... Questions & Value
Hi ...
I have an Erma KGP-68A .380 Short that I'd like some information on please ...
I'm curious as to if this is an early KGP-68A and if due to it being early and it having all the following contents, if it makes it any more valuable to Erma fans ...
My Erma comes in a Styrofoam Box with a Paper Sleeve covering the Styrofoam which has the Erma gun and information printed on the Sleeve.
Inside the Styrofoam box contains the Mini Luger, One Magazine, One Break Down Tool, and an Extra set of Grips (This gun came with both the plastic and wooden grips, plastic are installed) ... There are locations in the Styrofoam box designated for each item ... It also has it's instruction booklet ...
On the outside of the Styrofoam box is a sticker with the Serial Number for this gun. The number leads me to believe that this may be an early version of this gun, not sure. The number is 1002XX (I've X'ed out the last 2 digits) ... So would this put this particular pistol in the 1st batch of 200 or so produced?
Also, on the pistol ... Most of the ones that I've seen have .380 stamped on the side of the pistol ... but this one has .380 short stamped on the side ...
Lastly, this pistol is spotless inside and out. It looks as if it has never been fired ...
Any help on the pistol will be greatly appreciated ... such as if this is indeed an earlier version and if it's value is effected by any of the information that I've provided ... Thanks
I have an Erma KGP-68A .380 Short that I'd like some information on please ...
I'm curious as to if this is an early KGP-68A and if due to it being early and it having all the following contents, if it makes it any more valuable to Erma fans ...
My Erma comes in a Styrofoam Box with a Paper Sleeve covering the Styrofoam which has the Erma gun and information printed on the Sleeve.
Inside the Styrofoam box contains the Mini Luger, One Magazine, One Break Down Tool, and an Extra set of Grips (This gun came with both the plastic and wooden grips, plastic are installed) ... There are locations in the Styrofoam box designated for each item ... It also has it's instruction booklet ...
On the outside of the Styrofoam box is a sticker with the Serial Number for this gun. The number leads me to believe that this may be an early version of this gun, not sure. The number is 1002XX (I've X'ed out the last 2 digits) ... So would this put this particular pistol in the 1st batch of 200 or so produced?
Also, on the pistol ... Most of the ones that I've seen have .380 stamped on the side of the pistol ... but this one has .380 short stamped on the side ...
Lastly, this pistol is spotless inside and out. It looks as if it has never been fired ...
Any help on the pistol will be greatly appreciated ... such as if this is indeed an earlier version and if it's value is effected by any of the information that I've provided ... Thanks
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You can tell the year of manufacture, by one of the German Proof Marks which is a coded date.
Although Erma went out of business during the late 90's, your pistol would probably have some collector value because it's NIB condition, and resemblance to the Luger military pistol.0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
You can tell the year of manufacture, by one of the German Proof Marks which is a coded date.
Although Erma went out of business during the late 90's, your pistol would probably have some collector value because it's NIB condition, and resemblance to the Luger military pistol.
Gun was manufactured in 1968 and I've seen several sell for $400 or so here on GunBroker but usually that are high serial #ed ... don't say .380 short (just .380), don't come with all the accessories and aren't in unfired condition ... was hoping to get some clarification as to if these thing increase the guns value and if mine is indeed an early version or something more appealing to Erma Mini Luger fans ...0 -
Put it on our auction, with a base price that you can live with. If it is as you believe valuable? Two or more collectors will start a bidding war for it, driving the price up. This is the only way you can truly ascertain it's actual fair market value.
My experience with the Erma early production .22 caliber Luger replicas was disappointing. I worked on two dating to the mid 60's. They were made mostly made out of Zinc diecastings=( potmetal ), and lacked durability. Because of this I believe the early replica Lugers are OK for a collector who wants to keep them as safe queens/wall hangers, but leave a lot to be desired as shooters.0
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