1911 luger

howa5503

May 20, 2011 18:56

Can anyone help me with the specifics and value of this Luger?

I am attempting to post the pictures- bear with me.

http://photobucket.com/howa

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  Laredo Lefty

  May 20, 2011 19:50

  For a minute there I thought we were going to see a hybrid Colt/Luger.

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  rufe-snow

  May 20, 2011 20:21

  Really a nice looking Luger, from your photos. It doesn't appear to have the hold open added. It's hard to tell just from the photos but the finish looks original. A pre W W I Luger without a stock lug or hold open, that is in factory original condition, that hasn't been reworked is a pretty rare bird outside of a high value collection nowadays.
  
  I have been trying to decipher the regimental markings on the front grip strap. Unfortunately I mislaid Knols book, the best that I can come up with is the, "4th Hussar Regiment, 1st Troop, Fifth Pistol". Sorry without the book I don't know how valid this is?
  
  
  EDIT #1, Looks like I was wrong, in the revised photo of the right side of the Luger, just above and to the rear of the trigger there is a little pin visible with a proof mark next to it. I believe this shows that it has been reworked internally for a hold open. This would detract some from it's value by having the hold open added, IMHO.

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  perry shooter

  May 21, 2011 03:52

  WOW one hundred years old ! that old girl could tell some tales. I don't think that many in that condition have sold in the last 5 years to get an Idea of what it would bring .However if you are selling come back here and edit your post to give us your auction number I sure would like that item.

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  howa5503

  May 21, 2011 07:39

  The pictures don't show up as well on the web page. The resolution is much better on my computer screen. Can anyone tell me how to post them directly from the hard drive or another way that doesnt degrade the res?

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  nmyers

  May 21, 2011 08:38

  Photobucket images are only as good as that which you uploaded. You need to copy the images onto your forum response:
  
  http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294
  
  Neal
  
  EDIT: It appears that you have a "1911 dated 1908 DWM Military" luger. (The squiggle on the toggle is "DWM".) I agree, it looks like original finish. The mag appears to be a WW2 fxo-marked mag.

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  howa5503

  May 21, 2011 09:01

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  howa5503

  May 21, 2011 09:01

  Thanks for the tip nmyers

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  Spartacus

  May 21, 2011 17:56

  sorry to disagree, but i don't think the finish is original. there are areas that are blued over pitting, and the color is wrong (that could be the lighting)
  take some pics outside, indirect light on a sunny day. that will give a better representation.
  also, get some pics of the back of the holster so we can see the stitching and any makers marks.
  jmho
  tom
  
  edit#1 up until around 1930 lugers were rust blued. the gun was polished before the bluing process, which typically was 5-6 cycles.
  much later, commercial guns were re=issued to police departments and local LE. these guns were reworked and re=blued. the straw trigger, ejector and safety were typically ignored in the refinish. these were duty guns and not resold commercially.
  the russians re= blued captured and contract lugers as well, bit these were hot dipped and can be easily identified because EVERYTHING is blue, including the internals.
  german rust blue, original or refurb does not extend to the internals of the gun.

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