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Lucky007
What are the current fees associated with getting an FFL-01? Just toying with the idea. Thanks
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  • Lucky007
    guy I work with has his ffl and was willing to receive a shotgun I am thinking of buying. He says $10 and tax, I know the $10 is a good deal but since when do they have to collect sales tax. the gun is comming from iowa to wva, is he correct?
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  • Lucky007
    Forgot to mention...the initial sale/transaction/auction was between two private parties...the FFL is involved only at the buyers end to facilitate a legal transaction between the recipient of the shipped firearm (FFL) and the new owner ( Gunbroker buyer).
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  • makindu
    The simple answer is NO. There is NO federal regulation requiring an out of state private party to provide their photo ID driver's license (photocopy) to the receiving FFL dealer. However, I don't know of any FFL dealers around me who will accept an out of state firearm without said document in hand. It is to protect their butt. They need the info on your driver's license to enter into their log book with regards to receiving said firearm.
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  • armilite
    I doubt that there is a federal regulation that deals with it. How ever the transferring FFL may require you to do so and that pretty much trumps any thing else. If I were the transferring dealer and I was at one time. I would require this to cover my ass in case any thing goes wrong with the deal. One of the sellers may be a felon or the gun may be stolen or what ever. I for sure would want to know for sure who both parties are.
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  • makindu
    If you don't want to provide your State driver's license information, you should pay your local dealer to ship the firearm for you. That way, the receiving dealer doesn't need your DL info, as the firearm to going to be transfered directly from one FFL dealer to another FFL dealer.
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Lucky007
    Forgot to mention...the initial sale/transaction/auction was between two private parties...the FFL is involved only at the buyers end to facilitate a legal transaction between the recipient of the shipped firearm (FFL) and the new owner ( Gunbroker buyer).

    Actually, the sale is between the seller and the FFL for transfer purposes. He or she will in turn be the seller to the private buyer. FFL dealers have the right to demand any form of identification they choose to accept a firearm.
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  • Lucky007
    I can see all of your points...the FFL can require whatever they want above and beyond what the federal guidelines state; it's their business and they can do what they want. This recent photo ID request seemed to be out of place since I wasn't selling anything to the FFL. No other FFL has ever had such a requirement of me as a shipper. I don't understand the comment about the transaction being between the Gunbroker seller and the FFL...it is not. The FFL is not being paid, the FFL didn't buy anything from the seller and is actually transferring the firearm to the Gunbroker buyer/recipient via state and federal guidelines/laws. I do like the FFL to FFL suggestion...that would be real easy for me to do and would avoid this type of confusion in the future.

    Thanks very much for all of the experienced insight....
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Lucky007
    I can see all of your points...the FFL can require whatever they want above and beyond what the federal guidelines state; it's their business and they can do what they want. This recent photo ID request seemed to be out of place since I wasn't selling anything to the FFL. No other FFL has ever had such a requirement of me as a shipper. I don't understand the comment about the transaction being between the Gunbroker seller and the FFL...it is not. The FFL is not being paid, the FFL didn't buy anything from the seller and is actually transferring the firearm to the Gunbroker buyer/recipient via state and federal guidelines/laws. I do like the FFL to FFL suggestion...that would be real easy for me to do and would avoid this type of confusion in the future.

    Thanks very much for all of the experienced insight....

    The exchange of money doesn't matter; it's the chain of custody. The seller is the transferor and the FFL is the transferee and owns the gun at that point. If the buyer doesn't pass a NICS check or can't purchase a gun for any other reason, he will never be the owner of the gun even though he paid for it. The FFL will either return it to or buy it from the transferor.
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  • Lucky007
    Spider; Well that does make sense...if end user (buyer) turns out to be a felon etc...then I suppose the gun ownership reverts to the FFL shipping recipient as the new defacto owner...so I can see the need for the ID issue in that case. It just never came up before via prior Gunbroker sales so I believed that the photo ID requirement was unique to that specific FFL's business practices. Thanks again for the info.
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  • Nwcid
    The simple answer is this, the FFL HAS TO record in his bound book where/who the firearm came from. The easiest most common way to do this is with a DL.
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  • golferboy426
    All true but if you think about it, a DL isn't worth the paper it is printed on: easily forged. We have an FFl and always request it but all I really need is name and address
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