Comparison shopping Tommy guns
Okay, I know VERY well that "you get what you pay for"....
But I can't reconcile the grand pricetag of the 1927 A5/M1 by Auto Ordnance over the 450 for the Volunteer Arms Commando Mark 45.
Apart from using slightly cheaper materials, even to the point of plastic grips instead of oak, is there a significant functional difference?
For me, personally, I can admit that a 45 short grip would have to be used close enough that I could likely never get the drop on my uninvited guest! But with a rifle barrel holding the sights down for me... that's a different scenario. And, with a twenty round stick, I could wake up the whole neighborhood before I (hopefully) run out of 'persuasive skill'.
But I can't reconcile the grand pricetag of the 1927 A5/M1 by Auto Ordnance over the 450 for the Volunteer Arms Commando Mark 45.
Apart from using slightly cheaper materials, even to the point of plastic grips instead of oak, is there a significant functional difference?
For me, personally, I can admit that a 45 short grip would have to be used close enough that I could likely never get the drop on my uninvited guest! But with a rifle barrel holding the sights down for me... that's a different scenario. And, with a twenty round stick, I could wake up the whole neighborhood before I (hopefully) run out of 'persuasive skill'.
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My co-moderator nononsense has probably worked on more guns than any ten living people and I remember him making some rather disparaging comments on those guns.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=110917&SearchTerms=Volunteer,Arms,0 -
Have a West Hurley 1927a1 and have held the ones you are talking about.
Thompsons are smoother and more stout and function great,the other feel like BB guns very rough function, if it was me i would pass0 -
Weimar,
I am grateful to Mark for finding that thread. My comments were true then and more so now. It would be a supreme waste of your hard earned money to buy one of those pieces of garbage. It was and is a joke of a firearm.
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quote:Originally posted by mark christian
My co-moderator nononsense has probably worked on more guns than any ten living people and I remember him making some rather disparaging comments on those guns.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=110917&SearchTerms=Volunteer,Arms,
Thanks for the thread link... If they are half as bad as the thread indicates, it would be worth paying twice as much to avoid the Commando's clearest use... A de-pinned Christmas toy for my children. Wait! Even at that they might get hurt getting whacked by the barrel. Never mind!
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Well, you have gotten your answer about the Thompson Vs. the Volunteer Arms. Kinda like the Thompson Vs. the m3 Grease Gun in WW-II.
If you want to save a few bucks, the Thompson would probably rate better than the one I am going to reccommend too, but the one I am going to state is a fairly ergonomic little carbine. That would be the Beretta CX4 Storm Carbine. As far as I know they can be had in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. It might not hold a 20 round stick, or a 50 round drum, but it will be a tad bit less expensive too.
BTW, I have fired a real live Thompson, at the machinegun shoot in Knob Creek. What a blast!
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I don't agree about the Thompson vs. Grease Gun remark. The M3 actually worked.
My own experience with a Volunteer Arms Mark 45 (I believe that was the model - it took Thompson stick magazines) was, to be polite, less than stellar.
It wouldn't feed worth a darn. I think I got it up to five rounds before jamming once. Jams were adventures in engineering. And when it did shoot, I literally didn't know where the bullet was hitting. I finally shot at a berm to see the impact was about a foot down and to the left. You couldn't adjust the sights.
And to top it off, you removed the rear sight to clean the mechanism. That was actually a required action for field stripping.
Comparing the 1927 to the Mark (whatever) is like comparing a Cadillac to a Yugo, and I'm probably insulting the Yugo.
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