scope objective
setting up a rifle for hog hunting it . is going to be a 270 and most shots are going to be 100-200 yards. i am looking for a catseye type of scope most of them are 50 obj but there is one that is 44. to me a 50 obj looks way out of place i am thinking 44,but how much light will i gain getting the 50? i know the scope is not popular but it is in the budget,any help would be very welcome.
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If I understand this correctly, the objective diameter of a scope is the diameter of the end of the scope. And with a larger objective diameter the field of view is larger and brighter.
Since the larger diameter must be moved higher, what is the largest diameter you would use? I am looking at a 3.5-10x50 on a 308 deer/boar rifle.
Also how would you rate the Leopold Vari-X III series, Khales American Hunter and Swarovski American Series?
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godalejr,
quote:to me a 50 obj looks way out of place i am thinking 44,but how much light will i gain getting the 50?
It all depends on the quality of your optics, and the coatings that have been applied to them. I have seen several mid price range 40mm objective scopes that will pull more light than cheaper 50mm obj. scopes. It is not always the size of the lens, or scope body tube, that equates to light.
How much are you willing to spend? For around $200.00, or just under, you can get a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40. One of the best in its price range. That is my bottom end scope right there.
If you choose Bushnell, Tasco, or Simmons, you will obviously get what you pay for.
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quote:Take a look at a swift.
Same class as the TASCO, and Simmons. Their eye relief sucks, as does their clearity, and light gathering capabilities.0 -
What TSR said.
Optics are not a good place to skimp. In terms of sheer aggravation, time, energy, and ammunition to zero the gun wasted, a scope that has a wandering zero will end up costing you more than just buying a better scope to start with.
I've seen mixed reviews on these BSA Catseye scopes, and I can tell you that the other BSA scopes are hit-or-miss. Glass quality on these is not great.
You may end up with a good one, and on a bright day with a short shot, it may not make much of a difference anyway. But for really not all that much more money the Burris will give you a brighter image, better adjustments, and be more likely to hold a zero.
If you're worried about the difference in brightness between a 40 and a 50mm objective, then I'd suggest just getting the better scope, because a 40mm Burris is probably going to be brighter than the 50mm BSA.
The Burris TSR suggestes is $180 brand new in box shipped to your door from a variety of internet retail sellers, and you might be able to pick up a new or like-new one cheaper yet on Ebay.0 -
Take a look at a swift. 0 -
I have to agree with md1634. Swift is a really good buy for the money. 0 -
50mm objective lenses are at their best in lower light situations like dusk and dawn. At those times they are well worth it. But, during regular shooting/hunting daylight hours they do very little for you except force you to mount the scope higher then you otherwise would want to. So don't think that you will be at a loss if you mount a 40mm or 44mm scope. Myself, I am part of the Burris Fullfield II camp as my minium for new rifle scope purchases for centerfire cartridge rifles. IMO, a 2x7x33 or 3x9x40 Fullfield II would do just fine for the purpose/rig you have outlined. 0 -
buy a Burris and cry once (signature series if you can swing it) 0 -
How many of these scopes have people hunted with at night ??
I have used a b.s.a. cats eye for night hunting with a scope mounted red light .The scopes that are meantioned above are good scopes !But how many have hunted with them in the pitch dark only to be lite up with a red light ??Cats eye are MADE for low light! The above are not .50mm sucks in the most light too . I never seen a coyotee in the day but have killed 22 at night with a cats eye , & some are coated in a heavy rubber body and thats nice too .0 -
quote:50mm sucks in the most light too
1. Try a sunshade in the high light situations or use an ARD device...Remove them from a 50mm in low light and see how a "Catseye" stacks up.
quote:I never seen a coyotee in the day but have killed 22 at night with a cats eye , & some are coated in a heavy rubber body and thats nice too .
2. WOW!!! Rubber armoured Yotes! Grow 'em tough around your parts eh? Seriously though, rubber armoured scopes are largely the arena of "Tactical" set-ups and have limited value on a hunting rifle. I suppose there is nothing saying you should NOT use a rubber armoured scope in this way, I just believe the extra money is a waste and could be better spent on the aforementioned Burris, or even a Nikon.
quote:The scopes that are meantioned above are good scopes !But how many have hunted with them in the pitch dark only to be lite up with a red light ??Cats eye are MADE for low light! The above are not
3. Not even sure where you are going with that. As mentioned, it comes down to optical quality in terms of light transmission . A 34mm tubed 74mm objective lens Zeiss Hensoldt is not MADE for low light scenarios, but I think you would be most shocked to see the poor showing ANY BSA product will make against it.
While they are not my FAVORITE line, I believe the advice about Burris is quite good. They seem to have a nice consistancy across their entire line.0 -
quote:Originally posted by camodude
How many of these scopes have people hunted with at night ??
I have used a b.s.a. cats eye for night hunting with a scope mounted red light .The scopes that are meantioned above are good scopes !But how many have hunted with them in the pitch dark only to be lite up with a red light ??Cats eye are MADE for low light! The above are not .50mm sucks in the most light too . I never seen a coyotee in the day but have killed 22 at night with a cats eye , & some are coated in a heavy rubber body and thats nice too .
Light transmission...or the ability of a scope to transmit the highest percentage of light that is available at the objective lense, all the way thru the ocular lense, is what says it all. It does not matter if you have a 150mm lens, it all is what gets thru to the eye. More of yet, it only matter's what amount gets transmitted to the 5mm size exit pupil of the scope.
When it comes to optics, YOU DO GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!...BSA, and many others SUCK...PERIOD...even for their price range. Usable scopes start with Burris Fullfield II, and go up from there...not down. Try one and you will see.
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+1 on the Burris! Don't forget they also have a "forever" warranty. The next best is Redfield. They have a "lifetime" warranty. Then lastly, if memory serves me correctly, the Nikon has a one year limited warranty. Both Redfield and Nikon integrate range finders in a few models of their scopes. Just my two cents. Best 0
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