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clobeck
recently a family member inherited a few different rifles, shotguns and handguns. i was looking for a good book or website to evaluate value. how does one go about grading firearms? i would also like to find more information about each. please advise.

1988 Marlin 70 p
1962 Double Nine W104
Springfield Model 1884
Helwan 9 mm
1953 Winchester Model 94
Unknown date Winchester 21 20g
1929 Winchester Model 12 12g

thank you for your help.
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  • Bert H.
    You can get a very good idea of what each gun is worth by posting an individual topic for each one of them here on Gunbroker's "Ask The Experts" forum. Please include several clear (in focus) close-up pictures of each gun. The three Winchesters are going to be the money guns, epecially the Model 21 20-Ga.
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  • Hawk Carse
    The Blue Book of Gun Values will show you how to estimate condition by the percentage of original finish remaining. You can then look up APPROXIMATE values and a little bit of background information.
    Another approach is to look up completed auctions on GunBroker to see what they are actually selling for.

    And now you have Bert on board, which will be a big help with the Winchesters.

    Just to help you get started...

    1988 Marlin 70 p
    I think this is the Papoose easy takedown .22 auto. A good sound little .22 but not worth a whole lot of money.

    1962 Double Nine W104
    The same sort of .22 revolver, a popular plinker in its day, but not scarce or highly valuable.

    Springfield Model 1884
    US Army .45-70 infantry rifle, 1873-1892, this the improved model of 1884 with improved adjustable Buffington sight. Interesting and potentially quite valuable IF in good condition and UNALTERED.

    Helwan 9 mm
    Egyptian copy of Beretta model 1951. Not a high dollar pistol.

    1953 Winchester Model 94
    Pre-1964 Winchesters are interesting to collectors if in nice condition and unaltered.

    Unknown date Winchester 21 20g
    Assuming good original condition, this is the high point of the collection. One of the great American guns, a fine shooter, a valuable collector's item.

    1929 Winchester Model 12 12g
    Another good sound desirable firearm. I don't think people are as nuts over Model 12s as they used to be, but still a nice gun.
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  • clobeck
    i will get some pictures of the winchesters and the springfield over the weekend. thanks for the quick replies!
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  • 1KYDSTR
    As far as pictures go, use diffused light (or even better natural light) and use macro and no flash. There is a recent topic here (look further up or down the line...it is very recent and has some great advice and good tecniques) regarding how to take well lit pics. As far as the 1884 Springfield goes, get close-ups of the trap, underside of trap, face of bolt, Buffington rear sight and also the front post (many were replaced with a later 03 front sight...think I saw the conversion article in an old American Rifleman). There will be a few stock cartoches also. A rounded edged square cartouche will have SWP (Steven William Porter...Spingfileds inspector at that time period) in script lettering over a date. Under the forestock, right in front of the trigger guard will be a cursive "P" firing proof. Chief things to look for that will increase value are the percentage of case coloring left on the trap door, condition of wood overall, sharpness of cartouches and lettering in the trap and barrel legend, and percentage of original rust blue on the remainder of the metal. Good luck...looking forward to pics!
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