remington 700 pistol version
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
It's not military, but you can buy a Remington 700 "virgin" action (no barrel, no stock) and have it fitted with a barrrel and handgun stock. The receiver will be 4473'd as "other" and so long as you do not configure it as a long gun, but configure it as a handgun only, you can have your "bolt action handgun". From Brownells they go from about $350.00 to $450.00:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=32498/avs|Manufacturer_1=REMINGTON/Product/REMINGTON_700_RECEIVERS
Depending on the stock and bottom metal you could build bolt action handgun with a 10 shot detachable magazine.
i originally wanted to make like this but based on a milsurp rifle but this is simpler. does anyone know of any other receivers in that price range.
also what should it be chambered for, i don't want more than a 12'' barrel but i want to use a full power rifle round. recoil and muzzle flash aren't a problem and ammo price isn't much of a problem either as I'm not going to shoot it much
It's not military, but you can buy a Remington 700 "virgin" action (no barrel, no stock) and have it fitted with a barrrel and handgun stock. The receiver will be 4473'd as "other" and so long as you do not configure it as a long gun, but configure it as a handgun only, you can have your "bolt action handgun". From Brownells they go from about $350.00 to $450.00:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=32498/avs|Manufacturer_1=REMINGTON/Product/REMINGTON_700_RECEIVERS
Depending on the stock and bottom metal you could build bolt action handgun with a 10 shot detachable magazine.
i originally wanted to make like this but based on a milsurp rifle but this is simpler. does anyone know of any other receivers in that price range.
also what should it be chambered for, i don't want more than a 12'' barrel but i want to use a full power rifle round. recoil and muzzle flash aren't a problem and ammo price isn't much of a problem either as I'm not going to shoot it much
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I kind a like the Rem. XP-100. Might be more but it's a done gun. 0 -
First of all, its impossible for anyone to tell you what caliber you should choose for this project since you haven't explained exactly what you want to do with this gun.
A "full powered" rifle round could be anything from a .243 to a .50 BMG, and, of course once you're firing it from a short 12" bbl, its not going to be "full powered" anymore.
Getting to the premise of this thread, I really don't think building a rifle-caliber handgun from a virgin receiver is any "simpler" than cutting down a pre-existing rifle into a handgun, nor do I think it will cost any less.
Yes, maybe you can get a virgin centerfire rifle receiver for $350. But that's just the first step.
If you want a functional gun, you then have to locate and acquire a functional bolt, trigger group, barrel, and stock, and assemble them. The barrel would have to be cut to length, crowned, installed, and headspaced. No big deal for a gunsmith, but some specialized tools are involved and these are not trivial operations if you've never done them before.
In effect, if you're starting with a bare receiver then you're building a whole custom rifle, and unless you already have the spare parts lying around or know a special source for them, the parts aren't going to come cheap.
Of course there are any number of gunsmiths or custom rifle makers who would be delighted to build you any handgun/rifle you like based on any action in any configuration, including sourcing all the parts for you and assembling them. . .but again, you'll pay for the privilege. I don't think you're going to get this done for under $1500.
If you are going to a custom build, IIWY, I'd be thinking about a relatively common caliber (to decrease ammo costs, and increase available selection), a LEFT handed action (you hold the gun in your right hand and work the bolt with your left), a muzzle brake (to cut flip and recoil), and a long eye relief scope on top.
Meanwhile, if you look around, you can probably find a viable entire used Remington 700 rifle for under $500 (it may not be in great shape or a common caliber). Tack on $200 for your short-barreled rifle tax stamp, and you're still likely to be way under the cost of building something like this correctly from scratch.
The only limiting factor there is your ability to fill out a bunch of forms correctly, and wait a few months for them to go through. But you're unlikely to get a custom rifle built without a few months wait time anyway.
And of course there are already pre-existing rifle-caliber handguns that you can buy that don't require ANY special work on your part. The XP-100 is one. Its not bolt-action, but here is another option:
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what I'm trying to find out is what rounds will work best out of a short barrel. 0 -
If the process is more important than the end result - as it sometimes is with gun people - then a Remington 700, a Remington 7 or a Savage "virgin" receiver can be had and built up. A barrel has to be properly fitted then all of that fitted to a handgun stock. It's a fair amount of work and the end result will most likely be no better than a Remington XP100 which, as it happens, is the same frame now used in the Remington 7 rifle. There is a Remington XP100 action for sale on GB BTW.
So my approach would be fairly simple, buy a complete Remington XP100 or a Weatherby CFP bolt pistol and that's that. Personally I would get a 14" barrel and not a 12", I suppose that's just because I'm used to the T/C platform and figure they probably had a reason for using 14 instead of 12.
So far as caliber is concerned, you've got to figure out what you want to use it for but an eye should be kept on the shortened barrel and cartridges that burn efficiently. I have a 15" 375 H & H, would probably be better off with a 375 Ruger. I have a 15" 350 Remington Magnum and as compared to the 18" carbine barrel the shorter barrel does very well. For what it's worth, I've found calibers between 24 and 7mm are the most fun to shoot from a handgun length barrel, they seem to offer a good combination of accuracy, distance and recoil. I would say handloading is a must for best results.
Edit: Here's a link to a company that makes T/C barrels - many chamberings are available so at some point someone thought one of these was "best" for them for some purpose:
http://www.matchgrademachine.com/chamberings_public.php
But again, you have to define best - best efficiency, best accuracy, most powerful - best combination of all?0 -
quote:Originally posted by spas12
what I'm trying to find out is what rounds will work best out of a short barrel.
Well, that's easy, though you may not like the answer. Handgun rounds are specifically designed to work best from short barrels.
Again, its impossible to say what cartridge type will "work best" for you without knowing what you're trying to do with this thing.
Exactly what do you mean by "best"?
As dfletcher said, no matter what centerfire rifle caliber you choose, the factory loads are going to be intended for use in ordinary rifle barrels, and you can probably get better performance from a shorter barrel with some round customization (ie reloading).
In *general* some of the more popular rifle calibers used in handguns include: .22LR (hey. . it was designed as a rifle cartridge!), .30 carbine, .45/70, .223 and 7.62x39 (from AR-15 and AK pistols, respectively).
The "hand rifles" (like Thompson contender, etc) are chambered and available in just about every rifle caliber imaginable, but .35 remington is one of the more popular choices for actual hunting.
Edit, responding to below:
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i think i want something larger than .30 cal and more powerful than .35 remington accuracy and recoil aren't a big concern.
So then pick something larger than a .30.
For your top-secret mission, I think there is really only one viable choice anyway. You need a .50 BMG, and given your parameters, I don't think anything less than that will work for you.0 -
i think i want something larger than .30 cal and more powerful than .35 remington accuracy and recoil aren't a big concern. 0 -
spas2,
You might consider visiting a hundgun hunting forum. Many handgun hunters use factory "rifle" or wildcat calibers in their hunting handguns.
You state that you want something larger than 308 and more powerful than 35 Rem. Obviously, 338 Federal, 338-06, 35 Whelen, etc. come to mind. I personally own and use handguns in 338 Federal, 338 JDJ#2, 338-06 JDJ, etc. If we understood your intended use of it, we might be better able to assist you.
Good luck.0 -
Why not just get a T/C Contender style pistol with interchangeable barrels? If you go stock (or to a custom builder like JD Jones' company SSK), you can go from a .22 LR to a .223 rem to a .270 Win to a .45-70 Govt in a matter of minutes, have zero headaches with tax stamps or custom builds and the associated costs, and be ready to hunt anything on the planet. 0
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