Food For Thought
A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take every thing you have. Thomas Jefferson
Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
All gun owners from one state to another should work and stand together.
Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
All gun owners from one state to another should work and stand together.
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quote:Originally posted by alledan
On the T.V.,radio, in newspapers,magazines etc. every pro-gun advocate is continuing to repeat the same old thing..."the AWB wasn't any good to begin with...all it was is cosmectic....there was alwyays AWs out there".
The question is....isn't this working for the other side?
Knowing the anti-gun crowd like i do, when the next AWB bill comes along I think they will be saying the same thing and having pro-gun advocates to back them up which may make it easier to get a more hard hitting ban thru congress. All they would have to do is roll the T.V. footage with us cutting our own throats.
Maybe it's my own paranoia but i think we may have become our own worst enemy.
Seems almost like a set-up to me!
JMHO!
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Of all the things I've lost, I miss my youth the most!
You make a good point. When the AW ban renewal was tacked onto the bill to prevent gun manufacturer's from being sued, we played right into their hands. Many said the the AW ban extension would have been stripped from the bill in conference committee.
It also irks me when the anti-gunners are doing a petition and someone says, "Let's sign it with funny names" or "let's overload their servers" You know that they will just use the raw numbers to crow about their cause and not mention that "Strong Arm Robber" wants to see more gun control.
If we could just get 80% of the pro-gun people to sign up for the NRA and the GOA for one six year election cycle, we could do some political good.
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quote:Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
BULL SNOT0 -
I'm sorry, I posted before I read your past threads.
I should be more tolerant of the mentally impaired.0 -
quote:Originally posted by LaidbackDan
quote:Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
BULL SNOT
AND BULL SNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old 7x57
Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
WRONG ANSWER!!!!!You sure ain't off to a good start here. I think you are a Californian that was on here with a first post bich about sellers on GB not selling to CA, correct? Lines like you just posted is exactly why.0 -
Need to go back and reread your Constitution, Old 7x57. 2nd Amendment says gun ownership is a RIGHT, not a privelege. Do you know the difference? 0 -
Last I heard the RIGHT to bear arms (Read: own firearms) was a right not a privlege. Are you a BATF agent by chance? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old 7x57
A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take every thing you have. Thomas Jefferson
Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
All gun owners from one state to another should work and stand together.
You, Sir, are an idiot!
IBTL.0 -
Big difference in a privilege and a right and as of now we have the right to carry.
Most gun owners do stand together, we fight and bicker but all share a common affiliation that this right to gun ownership should not be infringed upon.0 -
Just who is it that enforces the Constitution ? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
Just who is it that enforces the Constitution ?
Us backwoods Redneks enforce it out here [8D]0 -
hmmm. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old 7x57
Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
Sluuurrrpppp, sluuuuurrrrpppp, baaaaaaaaaaa. Good boy, that koolaid's looking good this year, and so is the wool.[}:)][:(!]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old 7x57
A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take every thing you have. Thomas Jefferson
Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
All gun owners from one state to another should work and stand together.
Who is going to come take said gun?0 -
WOW.
Yet one more reason there will be blood.
Brainwashed sheeple like this that spew crap like the above.
Sad beyond words[V]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old 7x57
A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take every thing you have. Thomas Jefferson
Owning a gun is a privilege...they can be taken away.
All gun owners from one state to another should work and stand together.
No wonder you lost all your rights in cali, you are a perfect example of not knowing what a "right" is. Born gelded or taught?
Privilege? Pfftttt.
They can be taken.... by a thief.
Based on the title of your thread and the subsequent content, it would be safe to assume you are starving, no?
Stay there, please. And do not vote, you don't know how, please.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cahas
Big difference in a privilege and a right and as of now we have the right to carry.
Most gun owners do stand together, we fight and bicker but all share a common affiliation that this right to gun ownership should not be infringed upon.
Demonstrably untrue.
Many 'gun-owners' and purported 'gun-rights' proponents are desirous of government infringement of that which Amendment II prohibits government from doing.
Very few, likely as few as 3%, gun owners are supportive of Amendment II.
As to the original poster, he is mouthing in a direct manner what many GB forum members try to disguise via diversionary terminology, rationalization and justification.
It is that simple.0 -
quote:Originally posted by EhlerDave
Just who is it that enforces the Constitution ?
Well, looking at the state of government 'limitations', foreign adventurism (empire), erosion and abrogations of the Bill of Rights and the state of individual liberty in general, I'd have to say nobody is enforcing the Constitution.0 -
If you all look back to the days when then "Mayor Feinstein" tried to outlaw guns in SanFran, the courts found she overstepped her bounds DIRECTLY DUE to the realization that the California State Constitution (Not to be confused with the Kalifornia Manifesto of Self Destiny from liberals like her or Boxer) clearly states the same right (not a privilege) to the California Citizens as the US Constitution 2nd Amendment.
As much as the liberal weenies want to outlaw guns, until they eliminate their own Constitution, they can't achieve their goal.
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And here I was just thinking about some thing to eat and I read this. I guess I'm not hungry any more. 0 -
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Its a RIGHT, and before you get hammered to death, we pack up & move to a more appropriate forum...[;)] 0 -
I am amazed at such a negative response to the statement I made.
Back in the eighties a close friend of mine, his home was robbed and most all his gun collection was taken never to be seen again. A lot of those guns had s strong sentimental value. My friend made a statement that stuck with me...."never take anything for granite and that includes your guns". Well, I guess I have taken that thought to a step further. I didn't mean to step on my fellow gun owners toes....actually I was trying to stress the importance of gun owners working together.
As far as, No Sales To California....I found a Browning Citori listed on Gunbroker that had every thing I was looking for, and then I came to the Sorry No Sales To California....my thought was, the politicians win again. Anyway, I will put this behind me and move on. The Old Man 7X57.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old 7x57
I am amazed at such a negative response to the statement I made.
Back in the eighties a close friend of mine, his home was robbed and most all his gun collection was taken never to be seen again. A lot of those guns had s strong sentimental value. My friend made a statement that stuck with me...."never take anything for granite and that includes your guns". Well, I guess I have taken that thought to a step further. I didn't mean to step on my fellow gun owners toes....actually I was trying to stress the importance of gun owners working together.
As far as, No Sales To California....I found a Browning Citori listed on Gunbroker that had every thing I was looking for, and then I came to the Sorry No Sales To California....my thought was, the politicians win again. Anyway, I will put this behind me and move on. The Old Man 7X57.
Have you grasped the concept of a fundamental, constitutionally enumerated right -vs- a privilege, revocable by government?
When there are 'gun owners' who approach fundamental rights as if they are privileges, you will find that those who DO know the difference are less than enthusiastic about 'working together'.
Perhaps you should join the NRA, they also fail to grasp the privilege -vs- right issue and the actions and advocacy they take will likely suit your ethic just fine.0 -
Guess this another fine example of the uninformed,under-educated, and almost clueless populace we have in the US today.
Still, very, very sad. [V]0 -
I doubt he will be back. Sounds pretty set in his wrong-headed cali ways. 0 -
You do realize that technically Old 7x57 is right. Firearms and ammunition ownership right now is a privilege. Have you forgotten what happens when you get a felony conviction. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by RTKBA
You do realize that technically Old 7x57 is right. Firearms and ammunition ownership right now is a privilege. Have you forgotten what happens when you get a felony conviction.
A right not exercised...
It is only a privilege if one personally allows it to be so, regardless of what the anti-constitutional government's commonly-accepted 'infringement' is.0 -
[/quote]A right not exercised...
It is only a privilege if one personally allows it to be so, regardless of what the anti-constitutional government's commonly-accepted 'infringement' is.
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Well said!
I spent 10min staring at my screen trying to come up with an argument for this and I can't.0 -
Until the constitution is "officially" abandoned, it is only a privilege if one "believes" it is. In Cali, that's what they "believe".[V]
Can't help but wonder what gems HB would have dropped on that guy.[V]0
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