Terminology clarification
Clip vs magazine. I know that these to terms get used interchangably but I also suspect that thery are not used correctly. Thoughts?
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Use the word "clip" when you mean "magazine" and people will rush to correct you.
You will seldom be bothered if you call a cartridge a "bullet" or slug the "bore" diameter of your barrel, though.0 -
quote:Originally posted by DEEREHART
Clip vs magazine. I know that these to terms get used interchangably but I also suspect that thery are not used correctly. Thoughts?
You're right that the terms often get used incorrectly.
Same as "cartridge" and "bullet". "Bullet" just refers to the projectile, but many individuals use the term to refer to a loaded cartridge.
A "clip" holds cartridges together, to make the bullets easier to load into a "magazine". A "magazine" is the mechanical device which feeds cartridges into the gun's action for shooting.
Magazines can be detachable, or non-detachable, and they can be single-column, double-column, tubular, or other configurations (eg helical, quadruple-column, etc).
True clips are used most often with older military style guns. Some examples of guns that take clips include: SKS, M1 Garand, Mosin Nagant, and Mauser rifles. The "boomhandle" Mauser is a rare example of a handgun designed to load from stripper clips.
Most modern design guns will not accept "clips". In fact, many shooters (let alone non-shooters) have never handled real "clips" in their whole lives, and don't even know what they are.
This picture tells the tale. This shooter is using his thumb to push live cartridges from a curved metal CLIP into the non-detachable MAGAZINE of his SKS rifle, which is located on the bottom of the rifle, right above fingers:
And here's the "broomhandle" Mauser pistol, showing the same thing:0 -
Clips is a term used by very ignorant people.
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M1 is an oddball. Let me 'splain...
The Mauser, for instance, loads with clips into a [complete] magazine.
The M1 clip becomes part of the magazine! It's the lips, the sidewalls and the spine that you put into an M1 that makes the difference. Sorta like 'assembling the magazine' at the time of loading.
..just thought I'd pick some nits.0 -
"""A magazine is an ammunition storage and feeding device within or attached to a repeating firearm. Magazines may be integral to the firearm (fixed) or removable (detachable). The magazine functions by moving the cartridges stored in the magazine into a position where they may be loaded into the chamber by the action of the firearm. The detachable magazine is often referred to as a clip.[1][2]""" {from dictionary}
The use of the word "clip" when referring to a magazine came about from the newer guns using a removable mag that "clipped" into place, Unlike the guns from the 1880's to the 1940"s which used "charger clips".
Only super anal people would make a stern correction if you use the word "clip" when loading your 1911. Do you remember the scene in the movie, Full Metal Jacket, ---"This is my rifle, this is gun.."
Some hardliners here will correct you about using the word, "clip"........I think they still call their Chevy Impala's.... An Automobile....mines a "car"[;)]0 -
Is that a motor or an engine under that hood? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
Is that a motor or an engine under that hood?
LOL !!! It's a "bonnet", the hood covers the "boot" {at least in england [:D]}0 -
quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey Originally posted by cpermd
Clips is a term used by very ignorant people.
CP
,,,,therefore, the use of the word 'clip' in Kuhnhausen's 1911 Manual(p.64 Vol. 1&2) relegates him to the far reaches of 'ignorant',,,,[;)]
Along with the writers of some early Remington catalogs, where they offered "Leather Clip Holders" {fits 1" to 1 1/4" belts} for the model 742.....[;)]0 -
It does'nt bother me that some folks confuse the two, life is far to short. 0
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