Rifled Musket Identification
hi, I was wondering if anybody could help me identify this what I presume to be a rifled musket butt stock and butt plate hammer trigger hardware etc. it is only a piece of a gun and acquired it yesterday at an estate auction..most of the parts look to be or suggests Springfiled rifle EXCEPT for the trigger which does not look to me like a Springfield trigger part or at least I have not researched a trigger like that on any model of Springfield musket, rifled musket, or rifle..I can not find any marks to indicate anything at all..perhaps it is an Enfield design? 
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It looks to me like an early Model 1873 Springfield "Trapdoor" lock with a cutdown stock and a hammer from a Model 1861 Springfield. As there is no swivel on the trigger guard, it may be from a carbine. It's just a mixture of parts. 0 -
Hello You have the remains of a "Bannerman" musket shotgun. They were assembled from surplus, condemned and after market parts. They sold for $1.50 at the turn of the 20th century. It is just a curiosity and not worth expending any money or time on. Yours is in the worst shape I have ever seen. 0 -
I bought it as a decor "wall hanger" piece anyhow...hey cbyerly, could you (if you get the time) elaborate a little more about "Bannerman".. did he have a first name? or is it a generic term? I would not mind researching a little further to find out how old the cobbled together parts are on this converted musket.. when you say it is the worst condition you have ever seen, are you speaking about the wood stock too? I see no cracks in the wood, so thought it might be considered "fair condition"..granted, the metal parts are really rough.. I paid less than $5.01 for it and was wondering what it's worth dollar wise if I should decide to try and resell it..also, should I continue on and completely disassemble the parts from the wood stock?, since I am under the impression by your comments it is hybridized already?.. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
It looks to me like an early Model 1873 Springfield "Trapdoor" lock with a cutdown stock and a hammer from a Model 1861 Springfield. As there is no swivel on the trigger guard, it may be from a carbine. It's just a mixture of parts.
..so I have two differing opinions...you and cbyerly did not give me the same answer..so now, I have to get more opinions and will look forward to more replies..0 -
Howdy pie,
Don't know what the heck you got there, but Bannerman has quite a history...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollepel_Island
EDIT Nice addition Bigloop. As a kid, used to drool, (still do), over the advertisments in the gun mags... Kleine's, Hunter's Lodge, etc. But Bannerman was the consumate gun-nut surplus dealer. Makes most the "army navy surplus" stores these days look like a cheap made-in-china swap meet. sad. I think they closed shop a while after the '68 gun control act, but not entirely sure 'bout that.
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pie4me,
I'll add this article,about Val Forget, Sr., that gives more information on Bannerman's Island:
http://www.navyarms.com/files/bannerman.pdf
Here are some recent photographs of the Island:
http://www.opacity.us/gallery85_the_island.htm#image2897
Francis Bannerman VI was an interesting guy!0 -
this is why I love gunbroker.com... it literally opens my eyes to things I was not even aware of.. fellow forum peoples, thanks a million for all your replies 0
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