old mauser
I have recently aquired a mauser rifle, and I would like some help in finding out when and where it was manufactured, and what caliber it is. There are several numbers on the gun. There is a number(1062) on the handle for the bolt, with a B under it. the same number is also on the safety on the back of the bolt. It has a number of 66 stamped on the release for the bolt. The reciever is in fairly bad shape, but from what I can see it has the number 40 stamped on it close to the bolt. on the barrel there are several markings. One of them is the number 6701 with a K stamped under the number. There is a code of CXM12 41bys is also stamped on the barrel next to the reciever. The gun also has what appears to be a bird of some kind samped next to the number 6701 on the barrel. On the side of the reciever it has a number of 2381 stamped on it( I think this is the serial number). Further back towards the butt of the gun on the guard for the bolt it also has a number of 98. On the stock about one inch above the recoil pad there is another number of 274 stamped into the stock. Any information you can give me on this gun would be very much appreciated.
Thank You
Josh Abshier
Thank You
Josh Abshier
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i have a 1943 mauser with a rudiger scope. if anyone has any info on scope would be greatly appreciated. cant find anything on it. or any info on gun. i love the history this gun represents, just dont no much about it. has nazi eagle stamps all over it. could this scope have come on rifle? [img][/img] 
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3 days & no response? That probably means that no one knows the answers to your questions.
Or, it could mean that no one can see useful photos. When you look at your posting, does it look like the photos are about 1 1/2" wide? Then, that's how they look to us. Not much help. You might want to try reposting them after you read the photo posting procedure.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294
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quote:Originally posted by num1cun10da
i have a 1943 mauser with a rudiger scope. if anyone has any info on scope would be greatly appreciated. cant find anything on it. or any info on gun. i love the history this gun represents, just dont no much about it. has nazi eagle stamps all over it. could this scope have come on rifle?]0 -
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The Standard Catalog of Military Firearms by Ned Schwing shows a "high turret" model 98k sniper with a different mount & rings than yours.
Like the folks on all the other forums on which you have posted your question, I doubt that we can tell you more. Most likely the commercial scope was added when the rifle was sporterized in Germany after WW2.
Neal
EDIT: According to the latest edition of the Blue Book of Altered, Mutilated, & Refinished Firearms, your rifle/scope should sell in the $300-500 range.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nmyers
The Standard Catalog of Military Firearms by Ned Schwing shows a "high turret" model 98k sniper with a different mount & rings than yours.
Like the folks on all the other forums on which you have posted your question, I doubt that we can tell you more. Most likely the commercial scope was added when the rifle was sporterized in Germany after WW2.
Neal
Ditto with what Neal says. After WWII many German gunsmiths were out of work but lots of 98k's laying about like this one. German scopes were mated with wartime 98k's for the commerical market. This looks like one of those. We can't tell the maker as the front turrent sits on the receiver info (maker code and date). Nice looking rig however.0 -
I agree with Gary and Neal. Couple their input with the fact that the gun has been bedded (it is leaking out all over the place near the wood/metal junction) and there were not a lot of war time German sniper rifles made in a "Mauser Sporter" configuration (checkering, DST's, bedding etc)during hostilities either...too much precise hand fit work to make sense (for anyone other than Goering, maybe! [;)])for a military rifle. Also, the stock is not military configuration, and the overweaning majority of German WWII snipers were.
I believe what you have is a marriage of military rifle, aftermarket stock and military scope and mounts. The Rudiger WAS used on some Sniper guns, but not many, and it would have been a great idea for some German Austrian gunsmith to employ his skills to build this from available parts after the cessation of hostilities.
Please don't take this to mean I think there is anything "wrong" with your inherited rifle; I just don't think it is quite what you think it is.Is there a reason for you to think this is a 1943 gun? Is the reciever ring under the mount marked BCD43 or BYF 43 per chance?0 -
I agree a 1943 mauser 98 (receiver ring marked 43) fitted with scope and detachable mount much older, often seen on drillings around 1900 to 1925. Set trigger, stock and scope added on probably just after the war. I do find it interesting that scope front mount is dovetail cut deep into bolt upper lug locking recess, a testimony to the strength of a mauser receiver ring. Not much room there in a critical area to do that. So what you have is a similar but not original mauser sporting type rifle.
There are those that can take apart and clean such scopes and vastly improve the view.0 -
just curious what this rifle could be. im an avid hunter "bear and white tail deer" in ne us. i absolutely love this rifle and just curious about the scope. this rifle was made in 1943 and if added on scope after war, whats the scope and mounts worth? dont like the scope anyway, not needed where i hunt. thanks 0 -
num1cun10da,
Just to be clear about your question:
"...and if added on scope after war, whats the scope and mounts worth? dont like the scope anyway, not needed where i hunt."
This sounds as if you believe that this scope and the mounts can be separated from this rifle and used elsewhere like modern equipment. Usually they can't because the mounts are custom made and hand fitted to a particular rifle. Your rings are soldered onto the scope bell and body. They are a form of claw mount with a small difference, they are see-thru type with a small hole through each which allows you to see the fixed sights on the rifle without removing the scope. You can take the scope off and use the fixed sights but don't try to sell the scope separate from the rifle.
If you feel you must sell the scope, sell the whole rifle together. You need to keep the scope with the rifle no matter what your desires are.
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Hello num1cun10da
First) I doubt that I am the first and will sure not be the last, but welcome to the GunBroker AtE forums. Good to see you here.
Second) Let me apologize to you for my failing in attempts to reach you via GB email. Either the function is down or my ability to use it has been dimished by some viral affliction recently, in the last day or so. I was attempting not to burn off one of ten allowed responses to your posting here on the Experts Forum.
Thirdly) I agree completely with what Nononsense has relayed to you. Please use or don't use your rifle as is (with mount, rings and scope, etc.).
I would encourage you to slow down, to think and feel this out, in that if you do not wish or do not want that set-up as is ... you could readily acquire something more to your personal wants and needs very readily ... and more than likely for no huge outlay of $$$.
If you do that, you can keep this one, put on the the back burner, etc. Or if you have no interest in this critter as is ... sell it off ... use the proceeds for the other purchase or for purchasing assessories and/or munitions, etc.
I believe any change of this rig would be along the line of having a ... like, what a Ford Model "A" pulling the engine and trans. and putting a Dodge Colt or some such innards into the "A". One would just end-up with so much less, than by leaving it as is.
I have no idea how much you have into it ... nor do I have any idea what you would want, nor do I know (as is) it's potential worth. If you inquired here ... many folks could and would no doubt give you honest evaluations and/or opinions.
((IF, you should list, dependent upon the value, I'd potentially be interested in bidding and/or trading for value. In which case, you ought inquire here or elsewhere as to value, then list then, let folks know.))
What ever you decide and what ever you do, it is of course yours to do with as you please ... it is best that you be aware of the fact, that whatever you have there ... "they" probably are not making many more of them, any time soon!
Let us know what you end up deciding to do.
Good luck to you what ever way you go.
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