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rabump199
Ok guys need a little help. In process of buying a glock. I know the process of getting it on my permit in lovely NYS. Here's the question. I want to get a drop in barrel for the .357 sig from the .40 S/W. The gun will be registered as the .40 with serial numbers, do I then have to have it registered for the .357 sig as well. Seems like it would create a problem having the same frame serial numbers on two different calibers. Thanks for the help.

Bob
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by rabump199
    Ok guys need a little help. In process of buying a glock. I know the process of getting it on my permit in lovely NYS. Here's the question. I want to get a drop in barrel for the .357 sig from the .40 S/W. The gun will be registered as the .40 with serial numbers, do I then have to have it registered for the .357 sig as well. Seems like it would create a problem having the same frame serial numbers on two different calibers. Thanks for the help.

    Bob


    You'd have to check NY State law on criteria for registration.

    The gun is the gun (or more precisely, the frame is the gun). Once its registered, its in the State database under your name. Changing the caliber doesn't change the registration.

    I think its understood that .357 magnum revolvers can also shoot .38 special ammo too. . .are those registered twice? In this case, its probably also understood that .40SW guns can be easily converted to fire 357 SIG.

    A new barrel (which is all you need for the conversion) doesn't change which gun you have. The new barrel probably won't even be serialized.

    If you're really worried about this maybe you can register the gun up front listing the caliber as "40SW/357 SIG".

    FYI, you could also get a drop in barrel for 9mm luger. It may not eject quite as well as 40SW/357 SIG will, but it could be fun shooting, and ammo should be both a good bit cheaper and more readily available than 357 SIG.


    Edit: Responding to below: You can switch barrels on revolvers, too. In some cases you can also switch cylinders functionally changing the caliber (eg 9mm/38/357, or .22LR/.22magnum, etc). If you're skilled, in some cases you can switch barrel AND cylinder making something really different. There are all kinds of ways to interfere with ballistic tracing, none of which have anything whatever to do with the posters question about whether or not he needs to register with the State again if he gets a new barrel.

    The .38/.357 was just an example. The point is being able to fire more than one kind of round through a gun doesn't make it a different gun. Unless in NY State a gun barrel is legally defined as a gun, just putting a 9mm or 357 SIG barrel into a .40SW gun doesn't make it a different gun either.

    Functionally, the question is whether or not there is a legal requirement in NY State for you to register new BARRELS for existing guns the same way you'd register different guns, or change the registration of your gun, if you change the caliber.

    According to TSR, you actually do have to do that at least in some counties, so that's the answer here. Note that local rules can be different than State ones, and just because a county asks you to do something, doesn't mean its legal.

    On conversion barrels for Glocks specifically, I know you can go from .40SW to 9mm with a conversion barrel and new magazine.

    So far as I know its not possible to go from a 9mm *GUN* to 40SW without changing the entire slide as well as the barrel. Have you actually done this or seen it done yourself?

    Its not merely a question of the smaller breech face with 9mm luger, its that the outer diameter of the 40SW barrel is larger than 9mm and I don't think it will fit through the opening at the front of the 40SW frame.

    I've never heard of nor seen a drop in .40SW conversion from a 9mm Glock (ie 17 to 23). None of the popular aftermarket barrel makers that I know of (Lone Wolf, KKM, Storm Lake) offer any conversion barrels for 9mm Glock pistols, even though all of them offer 40sw to 9mm, and 40sw to 357 SIG conversions.
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  • yoshmyster
    It's cheaper to swap out a barrel after doing the mob hit than throwing away the gun [:D]. Unlike a revolver that can shoot .38/.357, a barrel swap in a semi would basically make a different gun. Say is New York one of those places you have to have a spent shell on file?

    I wonder if you have to distroy the barrel once you swap it out? If I were a mobster I'd have a few extra barrels for one gun to make the cops work.
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  • andrewsw16
    Unless you police up your brass after the hit they may still be able to match your gun to any brass found at the scene. That's why a revolver is better for a professional hit. It leaves less evidence. [}:)] If you use something like a Dan Wesson, you still enjoy the benefits of swapping barrels and confusing any ballistics evidence. LOL Hmmm. Wonder if there are any pros lurking at this site. [:D]
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  • Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
    Unless you police up your brass after the hit they may still be able to match your gun to any brass found at the scene. That's why a revolver is better for a professional hit. It leaves less evidence. [}:)] If you use something like a Dan Wesson, you still enjoy the benefits of swapping barrels and confusing any ballistics evidence. LOL Hmmm. Wonder if there are any pros lurking at this site. [:D]


    there is more than one way to catch a crook

    every firing pin is different, breech face ect [;)]
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  • tsr1965
    rabump199

    Being a life resident of NY, and having a few dozen handguns, I might be able to help. Which, by the way, I live in Wayne county.

    I also have several switch barrels, Contender's, Encore's, and some 22LR conversion units for my 1911's. The ansere to your question, is yes, you have to register each serial number, for each caliber that it can be. An example, is I have a Contender with 4 barrels...22LR, 223 Rem, 35 Rem, and 44 Rem Mag. I had to list it four times with the same serial number, but for each different chambering. The same with the Encore. I also had to list the 1911's as their original chambering, and for the 22LR.

    Now, one must remember, that this could differ from county to county also. However, to be safe, rather than sorry, the above is reccommended.

    Best

    EDIT 1

    Beantown,

    A lot of what you are saying about the revolver in 357/38, does not apply to an auto pistol going from 40 S&W to 357 SIG, or 9mm Para. The 38 can be shot out of the same chamber as the 357, the other's cannot. It is irrealevant to NY state laws also, and incorrect.

    Also, that is what I was trying to tell you in another thread, that the 9mm will function thru the 40S&W slide on a Glock, with just a barrel change, and Magazine. The 40 S&W will also function thru the 9mm slide, with a barrel and mag change. Nothing has to be done to the extractor.

    EDIT 2

    Karl,

    Yes, we have to put up with a lot of BS here in NY. The worst part of it is, that each county does it different, so to speak. There is very little consistancy from county to county.

    Untill recently, here in Wayne county, we had to have a permit paper for each handgun, or handgun/barrel combination. Recently they went to a credit card style permit, and can list around 15 guns per card. We still have to go to the county clerk to add one on, and then the application goes over to the county judge for his approval. Takes up to two weeks to actually be able to pick up your gun.

    In a couple surrounding counties, all the permitee has to do is take the information of the new weapon to the county clerk, and they add it on to their permit, or take it off if they are selling it. The clerk then stamps the judges signature on the purchase ticket.

    If I did not have what I do in the line of friends and family here in NY, I would be outta here.

    Best
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  • perry shooter
    WOW tsr1965 . I am amazed the number of hoops some of the states require of people . I would have never thought it would be so involved if someone like me Would ever move "NOT LIKELY at my age. I guess it would behoove anyone to check ever FINE PRINT law on Firearms.
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  • GONESHOOTING
    quote:Originally posted by Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
    Unless you police up your brass after the hit they may still be able to match your gun to any brass found at the scene. That's why a revolver is better for a professional hit. It leaves less evidence. [}:)] If you use something like a Dan Wesson, you still enjoy the benefits of swapping barrels and confusing any ballistics evidence. LOL Hmmm. Wonder if there are any pros lurking at this site. [:D]


    there is more than one way to catch a crook

    every firing pin is different, breech face ect [;)]

    I watch forensic files, I'll pass[:D]
    Be good or be good at it[;)][8D]
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  • rabump199
    Thank you guys for all the input. TSR is right, this state is out there. My county I can buy, put the gun on my permit and pick it up the same day however counties around me are 2-5 weeks for a turnaround. Total craziness. I will ck at my clerks office to see how they want to do this. Love this forum you great are great entertainment and offer great advice.
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