Para Ordance warthog
Is it very hard to help the trigger on a Para Ordance Warthog 45 acp, I am used to shooting a Smith revolver. Thanks
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Trigger just seems to be a little too hard to pull for me. 0 -
Smiths, even modern iterrations have a wonderful trigger pull, and can easily be enhanced. The WartHog was never meant to be a tack driver/target gun. Meant for those nasty little 3 feet away type encounters where a perfect, 3 pound trigger is of at least less consequence. If attempting to alter that trigger, I would take it to a certified Para smith...as long as you bought it new and are concerned about warranty. 0 -
Typical Smith revolver is going to have a super-crisp trigger pull in single action mode of about 2.5lbs. Of course once you get used to that, you get "spoiled" and every other gun trigger seems rough and heavy in comparison!
Even though its probably *possible* to get a Para-Ordnance "warthog" trigger that light with a good trigger job by a qualified gunsmith I'd suggest that you probably shouldn't do it.
The light revolver single action is really best for shooting paper targets or hunting, for maximum possible accuracy.
In self defense gun, you really don't need that kind of accuracy and a really light trigger is actually a liability. Such a gun is easy to set off inadvertently if jostled (you, not the gun) or as a "startle" response to a loud noise. That's why most police or security who are issued revolvers are (or were) instructed to use double-action mode only. Many current-issue service type revolvers don't even have a light single-action mode available.
Military spec on a 1911 trigger is 6lbs, and I think that's really perfect for a short range defense gun. Its light enough to get good (if not match) accuracy, but heavy enough to reduce the chance of negligent discharge. My guess is that your Para is probably right about there.
So I'd say if your gun's trigger is heavier than 6.5 lbs, its probably out of factory spec. If so, Para would probably fix it for you for free if you sent it back to them. If the trigger pull is 6lbs or less, I'd say leave it alone.0 -
Thanks for the advice but I do like to target practice with the Warthog. Am buying a trigger pull gauge and will see exactly what the pull is, but I thank it is over six pounds. 0 -
Even 6-8 pounds, if it is smooth and doesn't "stack" can be easy to shoot well. The double action on most of my S&Ws runs +/- 12 pounds at full spring tension. They have been stoned for smoothness and are a pleasure to shoot. Be sure to have a good smith do the work. 0 -
I'm considering a WartHog. Are you happy with it other than the heavy trigger? 0 -
Yes I am very happy with the Warthog, Shoots any thing I have tried in it. The recoil is not that bad either, about half what a Ruger 44 mag is. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by partisan
I'm considering a WartHog. Are you happy with it other than the heavy trigger?
I've shot one. It basically is exactly like you think it should be, namely a double-stack 1911 miniaturized for concealed carry. If you think you'll like something like that, then you probably will like this. If not, you won't.
The one I tried didn't have what you'd call a match-grade trigger, but it was perfectly fine for a single-action concealed carry gun. Again, personally I wouldn't WANT a gun like this with a 3.5lb trigger!
Like all the double-stack .45s, this one has a round fat baseball like grip. Not necessarily a bad grip, but it might not be for everyone.
As expected, recoil is "brisk", but not painful or uncontrollable because the fat grip spreads it out over a lot of hand surface area.
One I shot ran fine through the two mags I put through it. That said, without a rock-solid grip I'd imagine these guns are fairly easy to get "limp wrist" malfunctions with due to the light weight and short recoil stroke.
Even though I can't really say anything bad about the gun itself, this is not my cup of tea.
My take is that pretty much the only reason you'd want something like this is for concealed carry. I mean, its not really a target, competition, or hunting gun, right?
But for me the fatness, beavertail, and overall size of the gun basically means its not a practical pocket carry. Maybe you could get away with this in a jacket pocket, but not in a pants pocket. I'm not carrying this 30+ ounce brick on my ankle, either.
So if I'm not going to carry in pants pocket, then I'm effectively left with carrying it in a belt holster of some kind. Fair enough, but if I'm going to do that, I might as well just carry one of the more conventional compact single-stack 1911s that is going to be a little slimmer to carry, easier to shoot and potentially more reliable.0 -
The trigger can be improved. Para uses a trigger actuated firing pin block that doesn't exactly help with a great pull. There are a few extra parts not found on the Series 70 type to include a spring powered plunger that must be moved to allow the firing pin to move forward. Parts can be smoothed, replaced or removed. I suppose it depends on what one likes and can do or have done. 0
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