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Replica or Reproduction ?

theprofessor
This may be a silly question but what is the correct nomenclature for the following:

example 1
Uberti manufactured model Colt Navy 1851 black powder pistol, said to be exact as original manufactured by Colt . Is it a " reproduction or "replica?"

example 2
A Colt Navy 1851 Commemorative U S Grant, made and sold by Colt in 1972.
Is this pistol a " reproduction or "replica ? "

What is difference between reproduction and replica? Which term is correct when used in above examples?

What is the correct way to discribe these two different guns?

Thanks
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  • 11b6r
    rep?li?ca [rep-li-kuh]
    -noun
    1. a copy or reproduction of a work of art produced by the maker of the original or under his or her supervision.
    2. any close or exact copy or reproduction.
    Origin:
    1815-25; < Italian: reply, repetition, derivative of replicare to repeat < Late Latin replic?re to reply


    -Synonyms
    2. duplicate, facsimile; imitation.
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  • Spider7115
    The Uberti is a replica of the 1851 Navy model revolver produced by Colt. The Colt is a reproduction or a continuance of the revolver they made in the 1800's. Those are considered to be "2nd Generation Colts" and factory letters are available from Colt.

    I believe the US Grant commemorative was actually made in 1971. There was also a corresponding Robert E. Lee model.
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  • theprofessor
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    The Uberti is a replica of the 1851 Navy model revolver produced by Colt. The Colt is a reproduction or a continuance of the revolver they made in the 1800's. Those are considered to be "2nd Generation Colts" and factory letters are available from Colt.

    I believe the US Grant commemorative was actually made in 1971. There was also a corresponding Robert E. Lee model.


    Thanks Spider...your answer is what I was looking for.

    the dictionary definition is confusing, as it states that rep?li?ca [rep-li-kuh]
    -noun
    1. a copy or reproduction of a work of art produced by the maker of the original or under his or her supervision.
    2. any close or exact copy or reproduction

    Thanks to both you guys for responding
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  • tsr1965
    In my minds eye, they are both replica's. I have a stronger definition for reproduction. Reproduction in this sense to me is made by the same company, on the same equipment, or revised equipment. But by the same company. If I am not mistaken, the 2nd generation Colt's were not made by Colt.

    I even have a couple Winchester labeled 1886's in 45-70. They were made in Japan by Miroku, under license of Winchester. They are replica's, not reproductions or re-issues.

    Best
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  • yoshmyster
    I always thought about it like this "Butter" and "Margrine".
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  • nmyers
    It's a difference without a distinction. Don't worry about it. Gun owners are usually tolerant; either way, no one will criticize you.

    Just don't say "clip" when what you really mean is "magazine".

    Neal
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    In my minds eye, they are both replica's. I have a stronger definition for reproduction. Reproduction in this sense to me is made by the same company, on the same equipment, or revised equipment. But by the same company. If I am not mistaken, the 2nd generation Colt's were not made by Colt.

    I even have a couple Winchester labeled 1886's in 45-70. They were made in Japan by Miroku, under license of Winchester. They are replica's, not reproductions or re-issues.

    Best

    The 1971 through 1973 Colts were actually assembled at the Colt factory in Hartford, Ct.

    In 1973, they were outsourced to Lou Imperato (founder of Colt Black powder Firearms Company, who made the "Signature Series Colts", and subsequently the Henry Repeating Arms Company) and assembled at the former Iver Johnson factory. They were then sent to Colt for final inspection, documented in the historical archives, and shipped by Colt to dealers.

    Here's an excellent Guns & Ammo article telling the story of the 2nd Generation Colts:

    http://www.gunsandammo.com/content/cap--ball-resurrection

    GAcap_ball480B.jpg
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