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Help with Identity of a colt ? pistol

goldwinger43
Have a pistol that has a Colt 3" barrel.
Cylinder -Counter clock wise rotation

Markings on barrel:
Hartford, Conn
NOV 6, 88 MARCH 5, (can't read the rest)

Side of Barrel:
Colt DA (can't read the rest) holster rub!

No serial number on butt plate or anywhere else I can find.
Only other numbers I can find are 7881 on the cylinder hinge and inside the frame by the cylinder.

On the rear of the frame where the Colt emblem usually is, they is stamped: BAC

Thought it was a copy of a 1889 New Navy First Issue. Not sure if it is a copy or not.
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  • Wolf.
    This will require good, clear, well-lighted and close-up photographs for anyone on the Forum to provide a definitive answer. Study "sticky note" near the top of the Forum topics to learn to post photos.
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  • goldwinger43
    Here they are. Best my camera will do. Again, where the colt emblem should be,, a BAC is stamped.
    Thanks

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  • goldwinger43
    Did pictures come through? thanks for the help!


    quote:Originally posted by Wolf.
    This will require good, clear, well-lighted and close-up photographs for anyone on the Forum to provide a definitive answer. Study "sticky note" near the top of the Forum topics to learn to post photos.
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  • Hawk Carse
    I am not an expert, but such pictures and descriptions of real Colt Navy models do not match. I suspect a copy.
    The hammer is the wrong shape, the butt is too rounded, the extractor rod tip is wrong and crude, the markings are wrong.
    It has been heavily buffed and reblued, which would back off the collectors even if it were a Colt.
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  • goldwinger43
    I think your right. The missing serial number was my first indicator. Just don't know what I have and can't find any information as to what it is or who made it. Never heard of a BAC marking and can't find any reference to it.
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  • rufe-snow
    I believe that the "BAC" marking is actually RAC. These are the initials of Rinaldo A. Carr who was a U.S. government inspector at Colt between 1889 & 1909.

    The Colt revolver you have was reworked and refinished making it almost unrecognizeable. As the serial also has been removed, it's legality is doubtful, IMHO.
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  • goldwinger43
    I used the most powerful Magnifying glass (and my wife's eyes) I had and I believe your correct on the RAC rather than BAC. Because of the missing serial numbers, think this one will have to go back to the owner. Thanks guys for your help.
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  • hrf
    This is definitely NOT a Colt. The spur on the trigger indicates it has the Continental type lock work used in Belgium and Spain, and the side plate is on the opposite side of Colt's. The hammer profile is also quite different from Colt's. Most likely an anonymous Spanish copy, if no proofmarks.
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  • goldwinger43
    Knew the hammer was different. Thought the rest matched a Colt though. Thanks for you input!
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
    Originally posted by hrf
    This is definitely NOT a Colt. The spur on the trigger indicates it has the Continental type lock work used in Belgium and Spain, and the side plate is on the opposite side of Colt's. The hammer profile is also quite different from Colt's. Most likely an anonymous Spanish copy, if no proofmarks.



    The side plates on the Colt "New Army and Navy" revolvers are on the right hand side. As shown in these photos by Goldwinger 43. The trigger is also the one normally found in these same Colt revolvers.

    EDIT #1, Photo of the right side of a Colt "New Army & Navy" revolver, I got off the net.


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  • txfeller
    The gun is the new army/navy model that someone altered to use as a carry gun. They "bobbed" the hammer and cut the barrel and remounted the sight for holster use, much like a detective special or such.

    The three numbers you see on the gun are assembly numbers and when read in reverse will give you a partial serial number.
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