Winchester 1897 fails to eject
I have a old win modle 1897 12ga that will extract the shell but fails to eject, any thoughts?
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Yep...broken ejector.
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what about the ejector sping as it does not go through the receiver? 0 -
You can buy parts for your Winchester model 97 from www.gunparts.com
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quote:Originally posted by travis3
what about the ejector sping as it does not go through the receiver?
there is a small hole in the left side of the reciever, if the spring is not visible filling the hole, it is more than likely broken and needing replaced. very simple job if you have a replacement spring.0 -
this may sound stupid to some of you, but it could be a broken Left extractor.Been there done that. 0 -
extractor looks fine but spring is broken off. 0 -
YES, I agree on the two things that could be happening here:
-- damaged or missing ejector spring
-- broken LEFT hand extractor
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Check to make sure your Ejector Spring Screw and Ejector Spring are still there. If the screw falls out, the spring will surely follow. If they are gone, replace them. These are external parts, located on the left side of the receiver. NOTE: There is a third part of the ejector assembly, the Ejector Pin, located internally that is held in place by the bolt, so don't worry about that unless you rattle the gun around a lot with the spring and screw out. The Ejector Spring is an L-shaped piece with a round hole that the Ejector Spring Screw fits through. On the Ejector Spring, the leg of the L fits through a hole in the receiver. Sometimes these become worn down or the leg breaks off altogether, or, in some cases, the leg gets bent out of its 90-degree configuration (if so bend it back). As mentioned, remove the Ejector Spring Screw, then pull off the Ejector Spring and inspect that leg that fits through the hole in the receiver to see if it is worn or broken off. Replace the Ejector Spring if it is worn/damaged (hang on tight to that darn Ejector Spring Screw, because they can be difficult to find).
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That "Extractor, Left" Left Hand Extractor will require dismantling the gun. On most of the Win 97's the LH Extractor has a long leg, which acts as it's own spring. These long legs on the LH Extractor can break and when that happens, it causes weak or complete failure to eject. There are ways to reuse the broken extractor or to tig-weld it, but you don't want to do that; replace it (see below). I advise you to hang on to the broken Left Hand Extractor for a rainy day when you may not be able to find a replacement and you have to get some Win97 Wizard (self-professed, usually) to try to jury-rig it to work.
You can still find the ejector screw and spring on the GB auction side, ebayy, or the other gun auctions. Numrich Arms (Gun Parts Inc) has them for sale and offers them on ebayy
The LH extractor can be had the same way from the auctions. Numrich routinely lists them for about $20 + S&H on ebayy, but they can be had from individual sellers for much less here on the GB auction.
WHEN DISMANTLING THE WIN97, BE CAREFUL (contact me through my Forum email) when you try to remove the Carrier Pin when you go to dismantle the gun, because it is held in place with the Carrier Pin Stop Screw, which screws down into a circular groove on the Carrier Pin so the Carrier Pin does not work itself free. If you try to use a punch to drift out the Carrier Pin without removing that screw, you will damage the CP Stop Screw and maybe the pin. Replacing that screw will be difficult.
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFORE TRYING TO DISMANTLE the Win 97. It is a venerable old weapon designed by the genius, John Browning. it has approximately 90 parts in it and they all work together in concert. Do not force anything.0 -
Wolf Thanks, I have a spring on order, will see if that fixes the problem. If this does not fix the problem I will get in touch, thanks again for all the help [:)] 0 -
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