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COLT New Service

cyp712
Any information about this firearm would be much appreciated. I went to a local gun store and paged through some books. My guess is Colt New Service with modified front sight post and possibly ivory grips. It has a four inch barrel chambered in 45 LC and serial number of 1279XX with a "J" stamped just below that. If any other information or additional pics would help anyone, please let me know.

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  • cyp712
    I've got a Colt New Service setting here that an old friend inherited, it's a 38WCF(38-40), 7 1/2 barrel, and laynard ring. The serial number is 318601 and it's in a J.M. Eubanks holster. Friends family tradition says the pistol came from the RCMP. I have been over the gun pretty thoroughly, I can't find any RCMP or Canadian proofs. I have read that some RCMP firearms weren't marked. I don't know.
    According to the History of The Colt Revolver, the New Service went into production in 1897. Can any one tell me when this was built?
    How about the RCMP conection? Can any body help?
    Thanks for looking.
    W.D.
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  • rufe-snow
    Your photos aren't showing for me.

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  • hrf
    Your images show when just the basic URL is copied and pasted, and it does indeed look like a New Service model with a ramp sight and simulated ivory grips added.
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  • rufe-snow
    It appears that it has been reblued, besides the barrel being cut and the replacement sight added. This would have a negative affect on it's collectors value, putting it in what is called the "shooter" category. With the ever escalating price of .45 LC ammo, it wouldn't be something that could be sold easily as a beer can plinker.
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  • Hawk Carse
    Made in 1917 according to Proofhouse.com
    I do not think the barrel profile and caliber marking are correct.
    Front sight looks like it was made out of a rifle ramp.
    Reblued. I can't tell from a picture if the grips are ivory or fake.
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  • cyp712
    Thank You to those who responded. I am amazed at how quickly I received information. I hope to use this forum more often in the future.

    Thanks Again
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  • 1KYDSTR
    Definately the wrong front sight...there is a double cut slot for a hood, so I think that pretty well rules out any kind of purpose built front sight like a Guttersnipe or anything like that. The Pony is pretty well gone on this one as well. Some were poorly stamped to begin with but yours has assuredly been buffed out. Value as a shooter (dependent upon mechanical condition of course) or up close and personal defense sidearm would be in the $150 to $250 range in my opinion, as long as it is a competant shooter. Definately NOT real vory either, by the way.
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  • v35
    Looks great but as has been said the front sight isn't factory.
    Are their patent dates on the top of the barrel?
    The grips look like genuine ivory to me.
    As such they would be valuable in themselves and should be sold separately.
    Do further tests on the grips.
    It looks like a great shooter for someone having a large hand but to make it a collectible, an unaltered barrel would have to be installed.
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  • cyp712
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Looks great but as has been said the front sight isn't factory.
    Are their patent dates on the top of the barrel?
    The grips look like genuine ivory to me.
    As such they would be valuable in themselves and should be sold separately.
    Do further tests on the grips.
    It looks like a great shooter for someone having a large hand but to make it a collectible, an unaltered barrel would have to be installed.

    Sounds like this thing is of no real value because of alterations. I plan on taking it to a local gun show this spring to have the grips looked at.
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