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  • fordsix
    belgium made hi power 9mm in either a pilots or tanker shoulder holster..any marks on the holster
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  • firervfd37
    No marks on the holster. Just curious about the value and why there wouldnt be a serial number on it? Just the last 4 of his service number. Me being a veteran of Afghan and Iraq I will never get rid of this from WWII
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  • 1KYDSTR
    Interesting to note the guy doing the inspection paper work listed it as a 38 cal pistol and also refers to it as a "Belgium 38 cal"...wrong on both counts as it's almost gotta be a 9mm (Yeah, the bullet diameters are within ".002 but the cartridge ID is still wrong)and it is Belgian made, NOT BELGIUM made. Pet peve...sorry.

    Heard a story from an old guy I grew up learning gun stuff from who was Occupation Army post war Europe who had a gun like this one that was supposedly bought from an FN employee late '45. No serial numbers and if I recall he said the die had broken and there was a mis-spelling in the legend. It has been 30+ years so I can't recall when I looked at it what it looked like; all I remember was it looked kinda gray. Always thought Kenny was full-o-poop on that one...glad I never called him on that one! I think this might vindicate him on that count...wish he was still around to ask but he's been gone since '98 and I never got along with his kids/grandkids...I assume the youngest grandson likely sold it for crack years ago anyway.
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  • 45er
    Howdy Firerv,

    Very nice- papers up's value. Not sure about the holster, if captured with the P-35? Hence would add more value, yet may not be original, maybe U.S. I just don't know? If original magazine, also up's it.

    Non-serial number from F.N., well, and as you know, the factory may have been working under duress from Herr Hitler's goons at time of this pistols DOM, so anything is possible in a war-time piece, (as the rough finish seems to indicate, as previously mentioned. Stripped down, are tool marks present, also?-- more so, that theory.). Makes rarer, too, without the nazi Waffen marks, if again made during Belgium occupancy?
    The "C" instead of "G"?-- anybody's guess. The toolers "G" broke that particular day, so used the closest, being "C" instead?? whatever.

    The asian connection doubtful as most had the tangent sight & slotted for the stock holster? Can't see from the photo if your's is slotted? And yes, Army Service Number, not SSN, (may have been typo?), as social security numbers did not come into use until V.Nam days.

    $$$ value-- I'd rate as quoted before, going toward high end, just because of the unusual lack of markings, with papers, and possible original issued holster/magazine.

    EDIT Here's a forum link for HP's, maybe worth searching, also. I'd be interested to know about that holster, too.
    http://handgunsandammo.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fnhipower

    Yep, a keeper-- good on you.
    45er
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  • Hawk Carse
    I'd say the paperwork knocks out the Asian copy theory and I can go with the broken stamp theory.

    The paperwork date in November, 1945, well after VE Day, the lack of proofmarks, and the use of his service number as a serial number indicate postwar assembly for a Liberation soldier. Who knows what favor he swapped for that gun.
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  • rufe-snow
    According to the Browning Book, the pistols without serial numbers date to early Sept. 1944, right after the Germans left. Although it does say they were proofed, which your pistol doesn't appear to be.

    This is the second one that I have seen from that time frame, with out a serial number. With the bring back papers it's a very historical and would be quite valuable to a High Powder collector.
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  • firervfd37
    Thanks for all the great replys and help on this topic. I am not to familiar with this weapon and therefore do not know how to tear it down. If I were to research how to tear it down...I would research P35 then correct?
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  • Hawk Carse
    Here's a recent Browning commercial instruction manual, with takedown. Doubt your old one is much different.
    http://media.browning.com/pdf/om/hipowermanual.pdf

    Clean and oil it but don't go after it with sandpaper or even steel wool, you would just be grinding off dollars in value.
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  • firervfd37
    Here is a photo of a mark on the barrel. I did not see any other marks, but did observe the gun to have normal wear and tear on the inside.

    http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/firervfd37/DSC04105.jpg
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  • givette
    Well, I Can See Another Stamping!!

    Please, go over your firearm once more, and let us know what you find. The photo shows hard evidence of overlooked markings. Look to the right, and you will see a stamp that you've omitted. Thanks for taking the time to 'make another sweep' of the firearm. Best, Joe

    DSC04105.jpg
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  • firervfd37
    It looks like the other mark is MP...have not located any others yet. Good eye though.
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