Mail Firearm to yourself
My son is going to school in Oklahoma and visits home in Louisiana a couple of times a year. His permanent residence is still listed in Louisiana.
Can he mail a handgun to himself, USPS.
Thanks in advance.
Can he mail a handgun to himself, USPS.
Thanks in advance.
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Nope.
While it is legal for you to send a firearm to yourself at a distant location, the post office will not mail a pistol for an American Citzen.
You have to use FedUps and pay their ripoffrate.0 -
Additionally he would have to be 21 to either own or possess a handgun and since he is in school, most colleges have a strick moratorium (there are exceptions...my daughters will be going to those schools!)on firearms of any type. Whether enforceable or not, these moratoriums normally extend to their off campus housing as well.
OK...didn't mean to start WWIII there. I live in Illinois and without going through all the effort others have to cite statute and verse, I'm sure the laws here are similar to those listed for CA. As a retail salesman I was absolutely precluded by corporate rule and Illinois state law from allowing anyone under 21 to handle either a handgun OR ammunition. I made the illogical jump to shipping the gun to oneself applying Illinois laws...my error, and I appologize for having bunched anyones panties on that point!
As far as guns on campus; sure, there ARE a number of enlightened universities and colleges out there that allow full exercise of the right to keep and bear, but I believe you will find them to be in the sad minority. As I said, I plan to make sure my girls go to a school that will allow them the right of self defense .
As I said before, sorry for having stirred the pot particularly as a result of a flippant, non too well thought out post I made.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 1KYDSTR
Additionally he would have to be 21 to either own or possess a handgun and since he is in school, most colleges have a strick moratorium (there are exceptions...my daughters will be going to those schools!)on firearms of any type. Whether enforceable or not, these moratoriums normally extend to their off campus housing as well.
There is a federal law that says you have to be 21 to own or posses a handgun? I had my New York state permit to carry a handgun, when I was 18. There might be a law that says a FFL dealer can't sell you one, but there is no law that I know of that says you have to be 21 to posses one.
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While "mailing" a handgun is a procedure reserved by USPS for FFL's, your son can legally FedEx or UPS the handgun to himself at your address. Tell him to ship the package to HIS name at your address and when it arrives, put it aside and let HIM open it. Then you are legal, at least as far as the feds are concerned. I am not familiar with the state laws down there. [:D]
A few more points to keep in mind. Not all students are under 21 and not all live on campus. Both of mine had CCW permits, but lived off campus. Also, in Utah, if you have a CCW you CAN carry on campus. It is one of the more enlightened states when it comes to guns.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 1KYDSTR
Additionally he would have to be 21 to either own or possess a handgun and since he is in school, most colleges have a strick moratorium (there are exceptions...my daughters will be going to those schools!)on firearms of any type. Whether enforceable or not, these moratoriums normally extend to their off campus housing as well.
Please show me the law that says that.
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quote:Originally posted by Riomouse911
Mebbe in the state where he is. In Ca it's 21 for handgun or handgun ammo.
Again SHOW me that law..........0 -
Mebbe in the state where he is. In Ca it's 21 for handgun or handgun ammo. 0 -
Here is the Ca law for merely providing handgun ammo to a person under 21: the others will follow as I cut and paste from the penal code:
12316. (a) (1) Any person, corporation, or dealer who does any of
the following shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for
a term not to exceed six months, or by a fine not to exceed one
thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the imprisonment and fine:
(A) Sells any ammunition or reloaded ammunition to a person under
18 years of age.
(B) Sells any ammunition or reloaded ammunition designed and
intended for use in a handgun to a person under 21 years of age. As
used in this subparagraph, "ammunition" means handgun ammunition as
defined in subdivision (a) of Section 12323. Where ammunition or
reloaded ammunition may be used in both a rifle and a handgun, it may
be sold to a person who is at least 18 years of age, but less than
21 years of age, if the vendor reasonably believes that the
ammunition is being acquired for use in a rifle and not a handgun.
(C) Supplies, delivers, or gives possession of any ammunition to
any minor who he or she knows, or using reasonable care should know,
is prohibited from possessing that ammunition at that time pursuant
to Section 12101.
(2) Proof that a person, corporation, or dealer, or his or her
agent or employee, demanded, was shown, and acted in reasonable
reliance upon, bona fide evidence of majority and identity shall be a
defense to any criminal prosecution under this subdivision. As used
in this subdivision, "bona fide evidence of majority and identity"
means a document issued by a federal, state, county, or municipal
government, or subdivision or agency thereof, including, but not
limited to, a motor vehicle operator's license, California state
identification card, identification card issued to a member of the
Armed Forces, or other form of identification that bears the name,
date of birth, description, and picture of the person.
(b) (1) No person prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm
under Section 12021 or 12021.1 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103
of the Welfare and Institutions Code shall own, possess, or have
under his or her custody or control, any ammunition or reloaded
ammunition.
(2) For purposes of this subdivision, "ammunition" shall include,
but not be limited to, any bullet, cartridge, magazine, clip, speed
loader, autoloader, or projectile capable of being fired from a
firearm with a deadly consequence. "Ammunition" does not include
blanks.
(3) A violation of paragraph (1) of this subdivision is punishable
by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year or in the
state prison, by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000),
or by both the fine and imprisonment.
(4) A person who is not prohibited by paragraph (1) from owning,
possessing, or having under his or her custody or control, any
ammunition or reloaded ammunition, but who is enjoined from engaging
in activity pursuant to an injunction issued pursuant to Section 3479
of the Civil Code against that person as a member of a criminal
street gang, as defined in Section 186.22, may not own, possess, or
have under his or her custody or control, any ammunition or reloaded
ammunition.
(5) A violation of paragraph (4) of this subdivision is a
misdemeanor.
(c) Unless it is with the written permission of the school
district superintendent, his or her designee, or equivalent school
authority, no person shall carry ammunition or reloaded ammunition
onto school grounds, except sworn law enforcement officers acting
within the scope of their duties or persons exempted under
subparagraph (A) of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section
12027. This subdivision shall not apply to a duly appointed peace
officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of
Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another state or
the federal government who is carrying out official duties while in
California, any person summoned by any of these officers to assist in
making an arrest or preserving the peace while he or she is actually
engaged in assisting the officer, a member of the military forces of
this state or of the United States who is engaged in the performance
of his or her duties, a person holding a valid license to carry the
firearm pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 12050) of
Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4, or an armored vehicle guard, who is
engaged in the performance of his or her duties, as defined in
subdivision (e) of Section 7521 of the Business and Professions Code.
A violation of this subdivision is punishable by imprisonment in a
county jail for a term not to exceed six months, a fine not to exceed
one thousand dollars ($1,000), or both the imprisonment and fine.
(d) (1) A violation of paragraph (1) or (4) of subdivision (b) is
justifiable where all of the following conditions are met:
(A) The person found the ammunition or reloaded ammunition or took
the ammunition or reloaded ammunition from a person who was
committing a crime against him or her.
(B) The person possessed the ammunition or reloaded ammunition no
longer than was necessary to deliver or transport the ammunition or
reloaded ammunition to a law enforcement agency for that agency's
disposition according to law.
(C) The person is prohibited from possessing any ammunition or
reloaded ammunition solely because that person is prohibited from
owning or possessing a firearm only by virtue of Section 12021 or
ammunition or reloaded ammunition because of paragraph (4) of
subdivision (b).
(2) Upon the trial for violating paragraph (1) or (4) of
subdivision (b), the trier of fact shall determine whether the
defendant is subject to the exemption created by this subdivision.
(3) The defendant has the burden of proving by a preponderance of
the evidence that he or she is subject to the exemption provided by
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I got lost in the legaleze reading the other half-dozen rules, but in Ca a minor can't possess a handgun without owners written conset or with owner present...It's buried in PC 12031 or thereabouts, i startted swimming when I tried to read them all. (Of course the owner can't be prohibited from having it, then he/she gets in trouble)
Minor cant buy or possess handgun ammo UNLESS the same things are in place re: consent.
It's a nightmare for sure, but it's there. NRA-ILA has a listing of pertinent handgun-minor laws for all 50 states, every one is different. That's why I posted that blurb about it might be against the law where the other poster was living. Honestly, everyone should check the local rules from the locals before they get to where they're going...or in this case before they ship them.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Riomouse911
I got lost in the legaleze reading the other half-dozen rules, but in Ca a minor can't possess a handgun without owners written conset or with owner present...It's buried in PC 12031 or thereabouts, i startted swimming when I tried to read them all. (Of course the owner can't be prohibited from having it, then he/she gets in trouble)
Minor cant buy or possess handgun ammo UNLESS the same things are in place re: consent.
It's a nightmare for sure, but it's there. NRA-ILA has a listing of pertinent handgun-minor laws for all 50 states, every one is different. That's why I posted that blurb about it might be against the law where the other poster was living. Honestly, everyone should check the local rules from the locals before they get to where they're going...or in this case before they ship them.
So you JUST proved it is NOT illegal for a person under 21 to be in POSSESSION of a handgun or ammo in CA. This is the opposite of what you said in your first post in this topic.
It is Federal law that handguns and handgun ammo can not be PURCHASED by persons under 21 through a FFL. It dose not say they can not be in POSSESSION of them.0 -
NWCID, et al,
http://www.nraila.org/issues/factsheets/read.aspx?id=43
Age Restrictions On The Purchase And Possession Of Firearms
The purchase, sale, possession and transportation of firearms in the United States are regulated by tens of thousands of federal and state laws and local ordinances. Many of these regulations impose greater restrictions upon persons below certain ages, with age cut-offs ranging from as high as 21 years of age to as young as 12.
Most federal laws regulating firearms are included in Title 18 of the U.S. Code -- the Gun Control Act (GCA, 1968) as amended by various subsequent laws, including the Firearms Owners` Protection Act (1986), the Youth Handgun Safety Act (1994), the Gun-Free School Zones Act (1996) and other laws. Details on federal firearm laws are available from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. (www.atf.treas.gov)
Federal law imposes the following restrictions aimed at younger persons:
A person must be 21 years of age to purchase a handgun or handgun ammunition, and 18 years of age to buy a rifle or shotgun or ammunition, from a retail firearm dealer. (GCA, 1968)
A person under age 18 may not possess a handgun or handgun ammunition, and it is illegal for a person to provide a handgun or handgun ammunition to a person under age 18, except for target shooting, hunting, or certain other exempted purposes. (Youth Handgun Safety Act, 1994)
It is a federal felony to provide false information (such as lying about one`s age) to a firearm dealer, to deceive the dealer into selling a firearm to a person not entitled to make the purchase. (GCA, 1968)
Regardless of age it is illegal to possess a firearm on or within 1,000 feet of school property, with limited exceptions. (Gun-Free School Zones Act, 1996)
California - A minor may not possess a handgun except with written permission or under the supervision of a parent or guardian.0 -
As you guys keep proving, there are EXEMPTIONS to the laws.................
Did you know it is illegal to drive a car? It is true so how can so many people do it? There is an exemption that says if you have a drivers license it is legal..........0
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