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Remington 1891 Rolling Block Pistol?

gypsyjune
I recently inquired on this forum if this pistol was a 1901 Remington. I received two opinions one that it was a 1901 and one that it was an 1891. I have added more photos in the hope that someone can make a positive identification. The frame is case hardened and the barrel was blued. There are no Remington markings, there are patent dates on the left side of the frame and the number 5 under the left grip on the frame, there is a second number that could be a 3 or 2. The rear of the frame was extended by the use of rivets and what looks like brazing. The spur on the top of the grip looks to be added also. It is a .22 rimfire with a very rough bore. img]http://img691.imageshack.us/g/dscn2805y.jpg/[/img]
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  • hrf
    Thanks for adding the additional pics:

    It's not a 1901 as the 1901 has the rear sight mortised into top of the frame instead of on the barrel.

    And if the top of the grip straps are welded to the frame, it's not an 1891 either, but has been modified from the frame of a Remington No. 2 rifle. That explains why the patent dates are not parallel to top edge of frame below the hammer and breechblock as they are on the 1891 and 1901 pistol.

    Here is a recent auction of a No 2 showing the patent dates exactly as they are on your gun:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=198342097

    Later: Rather than new grip straps being welded on, I believe the original stock tangs were heated and reformed, with the spur at top added. The empty screw on inside of the back strap is where the original rifle mainspring was attached:

    http://www.wisnersinc.com/exploded_views/Remington_number_2.htm

    It also appears the barrel has been pinned, so may not be threaded as the original was (Note the pin in midst of the patent dates)
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  • perry shooter
    Would this then not be legal to own as it started as a RIFLE and has been converted to a Pistol[?][?] . Or is the age of the piece Exempt this from that part of BATF rules[?][?]
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  • gypsyjune
    A converted No 2 fits what I have. I am aware of this being in my family in this configuration and condition since before 1935 when my grandmother inherited from her uncle. Any thoughts on why someone would go through so much effort to create what was agruably an oblsolete pistol at the time?
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  • hrf
    quote:Originally posted by gypsyjune
    A converted No 2 fits what I have. I am aware of this being in my family in this configuration and condition since before 1935 when my grandmother inherited from her uncle. Any thoughts on why someone would go through so much effort to create what was agruably an oblsolete pistol at the time?


    It was probably not that obsolete when your greatgreatuncle obtained it. Do you know anything about him? If not, PM me his name and area, and I can probably find him in the old censuses, which will list his occupation. (Maybe he was the one who did the excellent work)
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