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Colt/SAA Artillery mixed serial#s

JOHNW34223
I posted last week on this site and many asked for hi res pics so here we go!
Hi Res pics of my Colt/SAA Artillery mixed serial#s!
Any one with info on this gun is appreciated, what I would like to know is if the gun is worth spending $ on to be evaluated or not?
lots of fraud and scams out there from what I can gather so I don't want to go to the next level with this gun unless it is maybe worth it...thanks again

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  • Old-Colts
    Hello,

    What you were calling notches on the right side of the barrel are actually marks made by a vise or some other tool and the barrel was removed at some point. This pretty much confirms my suspicions about the ejector rod housing not mating properly with the frame. The boss that hold the front of the ejector rod housing might have been damaged too.

    A picture of the top of the barrel showing the address stamping and one showing the hammer knurling would really help in telling what parts might still be original. Also, a picture of the patent date area on the left side of the frame is really needed.

    The almost lack of approaches to the cylinder bolt stops confirms a very early cylinder.

    Is there a number stamped on the bottom of the barrel near the base pin or under the ejector rod housing and if so, what is it? Any other stamps on the barrel?
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  • perry shooter
    Ok #1 so what you have is a frame That was made early enough to have been one that had wear and needed to be refurbished. So it passes the first test. #2 both the serial number on the trigger guard and grip frame are even earlier.and would also be from a time frame that they could be used for parts. So they Pass test #2 . . The grips look too new. but IMHO this is NOT a deal breaker on it being a real Artillery pistol and I believe it will be worth a colt letter. Again as I stated on your first posting about this pistol . You can CALL colt USE THE SERIAL NUMBER OF THE FRAME and They will tell you if they have a record on your pistol . If Colt did not do the refurbish work then more then likely they will not have a record on this early pistol.Their records are lost on early pistols like yours . Both of my early guns have no Original shipment records. BUT they DO have records on the rebuild.These rebuild records are what you need to be able to truthfully state THIS IS AN ORIGINAL ARTILLERY built by COLT . IF you call colt and they have NO records then there is NO charge and they will state "NO LETTER AVAILABLE" . However if they do have records then there is a charge. The charge for the letter is much smaller then the increase of the value of the pistol with FACTORY proof that it was Colt built. Not some jack-leg Putting together mismatched parts. I think a call to colt is a NO_BRAINER.
    EDIT The good thing about the colt letter at least with Mine it will state when it was received for rebuild but more importantly it will state that it was shipped back to" Springfield Armory" [^][:D] for re-issue.as an Artillery. model again the term Artillery model was not used by Colt or the military it is a term Collectors gave these colt rebuilt guns.
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  • JOHNW34223
    Thanks for your expert opinions, I will contact colt this week,
    I have another Artillery with higher serial #s I will post shortly...
    John
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  • Old-Colts
    perry shooter has given you reasonable advice, a Colt Archive letter would be a good starting point. However, keep in mind that the letter, if your frame serial number is found in the records, will only provide configuration and shipping information pertaining to that serial number and it will only relate to your particular Single Action if the serial number is authentic to that frame. To me, and I'm not a student of these "U.S." Single Actions, but regarding the frame serial number 14037; the straight side (not curved) "7" is extremely curious and the wide "0" is somewhat curious and they look a little odd for that period of serialization compared to other martially marked Single Actions of that time.

    As I said, I'm not a student of these special category Single Actions, so my observations should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm not saying your gun has been faked, but it has been tinkered with. There are a number of suspicious things with your Colt and I've alluded to them, but without the additional pictures that have been requested or questions answered there's nothing more to add.

    Good luck with your Colt, I hope everything works out for you!
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