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Winchester 94 gunsmithing question...

GuvamintCheese
Sometimes the loading gate is sticking and wont let me load the rounds. When I press on the loading gate hard it "clicks" and opens, and works perfect until you recock. Feels like it is hanging up on the carrier or something..have any of you smiths ever encountered this? Thanks.
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  • Old-Colts
    I'll give you "tree fitty" for that old flat band right now, no questions asked! [:D][:D]

    You mention that once you get the loading gate to open it works okay until you cycle the lever. When you get the loading gate to open, does it return to the exact position it was in before you got it to open or is it slightly indented?
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    carrier spring worn or a bunch of dirt under the carrier?
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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
    I'll give you "tree fitty" for that old flat band right now, no questions asked! [:D][:D]

    You mention that once you get the loading gate to open it works okay until you cycle the lever. When you get the loading gate to open, does it return to the exact position it was in before you got it to open or is it slightly indented?
    [:D]Its not the flat band, its a sporting rifle in .32 cal. once I get it open its fine, like the carrier is not returning to its "down position".

    Mike Whiskey says it may be a dirty or worn carrier spring. I guess I will try to clean it. I have never worked on a 94, is there much to it?
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  • Old-Colts
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    I guess I will try to clean it. I have never worked on a 94, is there much to it?Todd, it's pretty straight forward and intuitive, but not as easy as a Model 1892! A man of your intellect shouldn't have any problems! [;)] I assume you have a good set of gunsmith screwdrivers.

    Depending on how far you plan to take the action apart will somewhat dictate your approach. Some of the key things involved in a complete disassembly will be removing tension from on the hammer mainspring, hammer removal, removing the finger lever pin stop screw and drifting out the finger lever pin, removing the link pin screw and drifting out the link pin, and removal of the locking bolt; to name a few.

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    If you Google "Winchester Model 94 Disassembly" you will find several brief tutorials on how to disassemble your Model 1894. However, if they don't provide what you need and you aren't confortable disassembling it without some instruction; E-mail me your address and I'll send you either my "Firearms Assembly I - The NRA Guidebook to Shoulder Arms" or "Brownell's Encyclopedia of Modern Firearms - Parts & Assembly Volume 1" or both. Both have very good illustrations and text on the disassembly and reassembly of the Pre-64 Model 94. However, the Brownell book is probably the best. After you finish with them, just send them back.

    Bill
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  • GuvamintCheese
    Thanks OC. Its all apart and soaking in kroil. Now if I can just get it back together without too many leftover parts. [:o)]
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  • Old-Colts
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Thanks OC. Its all apart and soaking in kroil. Now if I can just get it back together without too many leftover parts. [:o)]I knew you could do it, but I'm a little skeptical about you getting it back together! [:D]

    Hope the cleaning and lube corrects the problem!
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  • CS8161
    That happened to me once...all it needed was tightening the screws in the receiver!
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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by CS8161
    That happened to me once...all it needed was tightening the screws in the receiver!
    Well your a little late...[:o)][:D]..some of the screws were lose to!
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  • Justjump
    While you have it apart take a close look at the side of the lifter that passes the gate. I have seen them make a slight roll on the outside edge where they rub past the gate. This can cause a bur on the back of the gate too . It's usually a loose screw though
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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by Justjump
    While you have it apart take a close look at the side of the lifter that passes the gate. I have seen them make a slight roll on the outside edge where they rub past the gate. This can cause a bur on the back of the gate too . It's usually a loose screw though
    Thanks, all of you have been great...and there is a burr there.
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