Question: Hi-Cap Mags going away?
So I recently purchased my first hand gun, it's a .40 S&W Beretta PX4 Storm. Purchased it from a member through gunbroker.com's auctions, thanks for such a great service!
Anyways ... to the point!
The gun came with 3x 14 round magazines, the FFL I had it transferred to said to get my hands on as many hi-cap mags as I can because soon enough I won't be able to... He said he bought as many as 20 for some of his hand guns...
My question is this... Is there some state legislature in Indiana that is coming which will hinder buying hi-cap mags? Or perhaps something nation wide?
Also, what is the official ruling that makes a magazine a hi-cap magazine? is it based on the caliber for how many rounds it can hold before becoming hi-cap or is it just a general rule of XX quantity = hi-cap?
Anyways ... to the point!
The gun came with 3x 14 round magazines, the FFL I had it transferred to said to get my hands on as many hi-cap mags as I can because soon enough I won't be able to... He said he bought as many as 20 for some of his hand guns...
My question is this... Is there some state legislature in Indiana that is coming which will hinder buying hi-cap mags? Or perhaps something nation wide?
Also, what is the official ruling that makes a magazine a hi-cap magazine? is it based on the caliber for how many rounds it can hold before becoming hi-cap or is it just a general rule of XX quantity = hi-cap?
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What will be illegal is whatever the law enacted says. Could be anything over 10 rounds is illegal. There might be an exception for .22 LR Cal. Don't expect anything to be logical in what is enacted. The misguided intent is to make the citizens feel safer.
Edited to add comment without burning one of the 10 responses.
The National Rifle Assoc. keeps us members informed of anti-gun legislation both in our states and the US Congress. If you are not an NRA member I suggest you consider joining. It is the primary organization that protects the citizens 2nd amendment rights. Not trolling but I will not surprised at some anti-NRA responses.0 -
Does this act have a name or something to reference it by? I would like to follow it... Or is it all speculation at this point? 0 -
You're going to have to track your own state's legislative initiatives. I belong to a state gun organization in MD that keeps its members informed on proposals, you should be able to find a similar one in your state.
It seems to me that 3-4 mags for a handgun should be more than adequate for your needs. If you have an AK-clone or an AR-type rifle that would be your primary protection in the event of SHTF, more would be a good idea. That's especially so with the AR-type mags, most of which are soft aluminum.
During the 10 years ban, mags with a capability of > 10 rounds could not be purchased. What the future holds for us is uncertain.
Personally, I think that there is no such thing as "too much ammo"; when currency becomes worthless, folks will always trade for good ammo.
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More specifically on the 10 year federal ban(1994-2004), was that you could not buy any post ban manufactured hi capacity magazines. Any that were made before the ban were grandfathered in. There were enough companies that had foresight enough to ramp up production of high capacity magazines before the ban, so there were an ample supply, but there were a lot of scalper's out there, and still are. You should still be able to get hi capacity magazines, unless your state forbids them.
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So a local FFL wants you to buy a bunch of high cap mags, huh? [;)]
To the point, I don't even believe the premise of this thread. . .that a new high cap ban is coming in the State of Indiana.
The pendulum on gun control has (finally) swung WAY the other way. . .right now there is more support for individual gun rights in the USA then in any time in the last 30 years. More and more states are currently liberalizing gun control laws, by allowing concealed carry, making it easier to carry, etc.
Sure, I *CAN* believe that some liberal pol in Indiana proposed such a ban in wake of the recent shooting in AZ, but that's a totally different thing than one actually passing through the IN State legislature.
Now, with respect to such a hypothetical ban, PRIOR such bans grandfathered in high cap mags. Beretta mags are not entirely scarce, and with the exception of Clinton-ban era "law enforcement only" mags, high cap mags are generally NOT labelled in such a way as to determine their date of manufacture.
In short, even if the State of IN were to ban high cap mags, since they're readily available in many other states, it would be next to impossible for the State to prevent new high caps from entering (illegally) or enforce the ban in any meaningful way.
Lastly, unless you do a LOT of shooting, or (especially) need multiple mags for competition, three high cap mags are actually quite a lot. Reserve one unused, and rotate the other two, and you'll be set for YEARS without having to fix or replace them.
High cap bans also generally DID let you import parts to fix up/maintain your mags. So even if a ban came, so long as you maintained the mag bodies, and/or could document that you had the originals, you should be able to order replacement followers, springs, or other parts necessary to maintain them.
Should a ban actually emerge, you could do all your practice and training with reduced capacity 10 round mags, and reserve the better ones.0 -
Josh, If there is going to be another Federal ban on Hi-cap magazines it will be in response to the shootings in Tucson AZ. The shooter reportedly used a Glock with a 33 rd mag.
According to the anti-gun folks this makes Hi-cap mags "evil" and subject to banning. The anti's never let a tragedy go to waste, so they will possibly use that incident to try to gain support for a ban on hi-caps at the federal level.
If I were you I would buy a dozen mags for your new gun, and then buy a few more guns and mags for them. I would also suggest you have at least 1,000 rounds of ammo for any guns you have.0 -
Thanks for all the responses... I've always thought in my lifetime I could see some major governmental/social collapse similar to Katrina, be it local or national it's a scarey thought... With that said buying a few extra mags and a lot of rounds won't hurt. Overall I will feel more prepared regardless of what comes, tighet gun control or society meltdown. 0
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