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M1 GARAND W/PICTURES

MOONED
I submitted a topic on maybe Tuesday of a garand I found at a gun show last week end. I was able to take some pictures today and upload them.
I know I do not have a proper gun, but am curious as to what I do have. I think the barrel is dated 65, and all the other components have various numbers, so i assume they were from different guns??? Anyway, please check out the pictures and let me know if I am right with my assumptions.

Oh, another thing that may be of interest. I made this purchase from an older gentleman who got this rifle from "CDR Anniston Armory Depot" and gave me the receipt from his purchase in the late 60's. Not sure if that's what CMP now is??? Anyway, I thought it was of interest.

EDIT:
The stock is "P" marked on the underside behind the trigger guard. However, no circle is present. Perhaps it was sanded off at some point prior to being refinished.

EDIT#2
Thanks all for the input. Now to decide should I keep it "as-is" or look for replacement parts. I guess if nothing else, I will try to find a stock with cartouche. Even though it may not enhance the value, it would make the rifle appear more worthy....at least that's my opinion.

Thanks,

Aaron
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  • countryfarmer
    Mooned, you have a lot of Springfield parts there. All of those numbers are called drawing numbers(I think). More M1 experts should be around shortly.

    Be very careful when looking for a stock with the correct markings. Fake markings are more than abundant out there and it takes a trained eye to spot them. In other words, don't pay out a boatload of money just based on markings.
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  • tsr1965
    MOONED,

    Nice pictures you have there. I am sure a gentleman by the name of Mark Christian will be along soon. He is one of our moderators here, and a M1 Garand expert...he actually eats, sleeps, dreams, and breathes Garands.

    Best
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  • Emmett Dunham
    Nice rifle! It a rebuild mix master Garand! Early serial number and nicely marked, the bolt is also early. The receiver heal is lead dipped. If the 9 oprond is curved it has a little value, the trigger group is post war, the sights are replacements and they have part numbers some of the replacements and post war IHC and H&R have some value. The barrel is a 1965 replacement and are know to be good shooters, I have one on a 43 and it shoot great. If the stock is not marked with at least a proof P it could be a after market or sanded. You did good you got your self a nice rifle now how does it shoot?


    Emmett
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  • nmyers
    It looks like an original finish on the receiver. But, the electropencilled rebuild markings cannot be removed without grinding & refinishing. The wood is arsenal replacement. A nice arsenal rebuild. If it were mine, I'd leave it "as is". You could spend several years & several thousand $ on replacing parts, but it still wouldn't be close to original; unaltered original parts for WW2 rifles are difficult to find, expensive, & outnumbered by "unattributed reproduction" parts.

    Neal

    EDIT: Back in the '60s, the only way to buy an M1 rifle from the US government was through the Director of Civilian Marksmanship (the predecessor of CMP). DCM was just an office in Washington DC that processed paperwork, & the rifle was shipped to the buyer directly from an arsenal. Sales were limited to registered competitive shooters, & they could buy one rifle per lifetime.
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  • Spartacus
    neal has it right. a nice arsenal rebuild. if you got it for less than $850, you did well.
    of course, i would defer to mark's opinion
    tom
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  • countryfarmer
    The receiver heal is lead dipped

    OK Emmett how do you determine that? From the ones I have seen that I know were lead dipped, the discoloration is VERY visible. I don't see that with this one. I'm not saying it is not but I always thought there was very visible discoloration.

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    Ok I found this: Also, if your receiver is a Springfield and under about 2.3 million(roughly pre Dec. 1943) there is an excellant chance that it has a lead dipped heel, which shows up better with the grey zinc park, rather than the blackish maganese park
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  • Emmett Dunham
    This one was easy it is has lead engraved on the receiver leg. If you look real close at the picture you will see that his leaded heal is smeared and not even like yours, the discoloration is there.



    Emmett
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by Emmett Dunham
    This one was easy it is has lead engraved on the receiver leg. If you look real close at the picture you will see that his leaded heal is smeared and not even like yours, the discoloration is there.



    Emmett


    That is a joke, right...Or At least I hope that it is! LEAD indicates that it was rebuilt at Letterkenny Army Depot and has nothing at all to do with the receiver being Lead dipped.
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  • Orlando
    You have a LEAD Letterkenny Rebuild . The 1960's rebuilds are getting collectable in their own and swapping parts will only hurt the value on this one.
    I dont understand the reasoning why the first thing someone wants to do is swap parts. The rifle would only be worth the some of parts anyway and would be a costly venture on a WWII rifle.
    Is there a Ink Triangle stamp on the grip?
    LEAD ingraving has absloutly nothing to do with a lead dipped annealed heel
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