14 gauge
i have come across a few old shotgun shells one is a 14 gauge geveloy paris and has ivention brevetee -S.G.D.G- stamped on the side its paper hull and the other is a rim fire paper hull with only a "w" stamped on the rim it is a 1 3/4" long and a lil over 1/4" wide any info is appreciated
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Invention Brevete- Patent pending. SGDG- mark of the Swiss patent office (I think) The 14s have been around a long time- have 2 different rounds in my collection. Gevelot is (again, I think) French- they also patented their stuff in other nations.
The second is likely a 9mm Shotshell. As in 9mm rimfire shotgun. Winchester among others.
PS- there were shotgun shells (not for handguns) made as small as 6mm rimfire. Rather like a secretary I had- cute, but useless.0 -
do you have any other info about these shells? like worth or rarity? 0 -
The 14s are fairly scarce. Last one I sw for sale was about $18 for a very good specimen, but price varies by maker, condition, etc. The paper and brass 9mms are usually about $2-$4. Think Fiocchi is still making an all metal version- folks still shoot them, we have a couple of SERIOUS cartridge folks on here that will have a much better idea than I do.
PS- you want to talk RARE- try a 15 guage shotshell. No, that was not a typo- 15 g.0 -
Hi,
I am no expert when it comes to shotgun shells. Many cartridge collectors disdain shotgun shells for reasons unknown to me. The 14-gauge is somewhat odd in this country but was manufactured in the US from the 1880's until circa 1900.
"Brevet?" indicates that the design of this shotgun shell incorporates one or more patents claimed by Geveloy or maybe Gevelot. Gevelot is a major French ammunition manufacturer and has been in business for a century. S.G.D.G is not a brand, and it means "Patented, without guarantee of the French government" - a disclaimer of patent rights.
The 14-gauge in Europe is not so rare. Specialty importers still make loaded rounds available in either paper or plastic hulls. The French are still producing empty hulls for the 2-9/16 inch version.
While your 14-gauge is not often seen in the US by a large user base, I doubt it is worth much to a collector. I tried to look up the value and your shell is not listed. Usually what brings money for collectible shotgun shells is large bore shells from US manufacturers such as Robin Hood, Sibley Smelting, American Ammunition Co., or the like.
Since I don't really know about these I would advise you to post a photo and inquiry on:
http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/
They will know.
Best,
Heavyiron0
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