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  • Kerviel
    I'm trying to get my first rifle basicly for pig and deer hunting so I would like to know your opinions on what to get also why???also what scope should I need to get,thanks to all.
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  • Herschel
    From experience I have learned to ask lots of questions and demand good photos in advance to eliminate this problem. If the rifle is not as described I would return it in the 3 day inspection period. You may have to pay shipping, depending on what the seller said in his listing.
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  • Kerviel
    Well the gun was sold as is, but the description was far from the truth, however most of the wear was concealed in the photographs and the parts missing were not mentioned at any point in time. Does the 3 day inspection period still apply or is that only if the seller offers it?
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  • Spider7115
    Although some sellers offer an inspection period, it is not a requirement.

    If you have an auction problem, you need to contact GB auction support as we can not assist you in the forums:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/SupportIssueNew.aspx
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  • JohnnyBGood
    quote:Originally posted by Kerviel
    Has anyone purchased a gun online to find it wasn't in the condition described? How did you resolve it? What if the seller is unwilling to remedy the issue? I am just looking for advice from the experts who I am sure have run into this problem at one time or another.

    I appreciate your help.


    It's not all that difficult to avoid such a situation, which is better than being faced with having to return a gun.

    The best way to avoid, or at least minimize disappointment, is to read the sellers description carefully. Read what he/she says and just as important, what they don't say. Be careful of CYA descriptions, such as "Serial numbers appear to match", or "Mechanism appears to function."

    Also watch out for "I got this at an estate sale and don't know anything about it", or "I was told it's original."

    Look at the pictures carefully. If there are not enough of them or they are not clear ask for more. Don't be afraid to ask questions to clarify something you don't understand in the description. If a seller doesn't respond in a proper manner (or doesn't respond at all to your email) I would suggest avoiding buying from them.

    Do your homework, buy reference books on the subject matter that interests you, and use this forum to supplement what you know. Do not rely solely on this forum or any other forum to protect you from a bad deal. The responsibility is yours to be armed and prepared for your purchases.

    Lots of other tips to help you avoid a bad situation, but that will get you started.

    Johnny
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by Herschel
    From experience I have learned to ask lots of questions and demand good photos in advance to eliminate this problem. If the rifle is not as described I would return it in the 3 day inspection period. You may have to pay shipping, depending on what the seller said in his listing.


    There is not always a 3 day inspection period. That is up to the seller, and is usually stated in the auction's return policy section.

    If the gun is not as described, you need to contact the seller to see if they will satisfy your wishes, and if they cannot be diplomatically solved, then get in touch with the auction side admins. Remember to place feedback for this seller also.

    Best
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  • Kerviel
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    Although some sellers offer an inspection period, it is not a requirement.

    If you have an auction problem, you need to contact GB auction support as we can not assist you in the forums:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/SupportIssueNew.aspx


    Thanks for the URL, I will use that. I wasn't seeking support regarding an auction, I was merely seeking advice to see how others handled problems that arose with their purchases if they had one.

    Thank you all for the help and advice. My gun dealer is helping me resolve the situation.
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  • 1988z01
    quote:Originally posted by JohnnyBGood
    quote:Originally posted by Kerviel
    Has anyone purchased a gun online to find it wasn't in the condition described? How did you resolve it? What if the seller is unwilling to remedy the issue? I am just looking for advice from the experts who I am sure have run into this problem at one time or another.

    I appreciate your help.


    It's not all that difficult to avoid such a situation, which is better than being faced with having to return a gun.

    The best way to avoid, or at least minimize disappointment, is to read the sellers description carefully. Read what he/she says and just as important, what they don't say. Be careful of CYA descriptions, such as "Serial numbers appear to match", or "Mechanism appears to function."

    Also watch out for "I got this at an estate sale and don't know anything about it", or "I was told it's original."

    Look at the pictures carefully. If there are not enough of them or they are not clear ask for more. Don't be afraid to ask questions to clarify something you don't understand in the description. If a seller doesn't respond in a proper manner (or doesn't respond at all to your email) I would suggest avoiding buying from them.

    Do your homework, buy reference books on the subject matter that interests you, and use this forum to supplement what you know. Do not rely solely on this forum or any other forum to protect you from a bad deal. The responsibility is yours to be armed and prepared for your purchases.

    Lots of other tips to help you avoid a bad situation, but that will get you started.

    Johnny


    Johnny's right on the money here. Now, with that said, be sure to contact the seller with your case. I sold an old junker Winchester single shot that wasn't to the buyers satisfaction. At first he took it to a gun smith and spent about 2 hours work of work. Then it turned out the smith was him. I never found out he was even upset until he sent me my only C feedback. I emailed him to ask why he didn't contactd me. He then took several emails to belittle me for not providing feedback, and calling me everything he could imagine. I still feel that the gun was advertised accurately. I even stipulated that it should be taken to a gunsmith. My ONLY problem over the entire thing was that he NEVER once gave me the opportunity to make him happy. He NEVER emailed me to voice a concern. He jumped straight to the bad feedback without any attempt at contact, saying he bet I would finally leave feedback. Well, I did. I gave him the A for doing his part - prompt payment. After all was said I refunded him $60 for the 2 hrs supposedly he had to spend to repair an old winchester. A good responsible buyer asks good questions. A good responsible seller answers them in the ad, but also is as good as his or her word.

    Bottom line I guess is to give them a chance to make the right move and be sure to keep good contact with them. Hopefully they will be like the majority of sellers here - Honest
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  • littlegun
    what's the auction number had something similar happen to me
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  • slumlord44
    The only way to be 100% certian that you won't have a problem is to never bid on anything without a 3 day inspection period.
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  • MrGunz22
    I once bought a NEF 12gauge rifled barrel just to keep on the quad in camp. Auction stated NIB in the title. Condition was listed as Factory New. The pic was not of the actual gun but a stock pic from the NEF website. I did not think that was a problem because the gun was NIB. When I arrived at my dealer to take delivery there was no box and the gun was covered in light rust freckling. I mean top to bottom rust. When I contacted the seller he never responded. I tried to remove the rust with steel wool but the reciever had actually started to pit. Left him neg. feedback and painted the gun camo. I only spent $100 and wasnt worth the hassle. He is still selling on the auction side today and has tons of neg. feedback. People are still buying his stuff though
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  • 1KYDSTR
    MrGunz...goes to show, many people indeed are fools. Just keep on buying from people that have that much negative feedback hoping for the diamond in the rough...well, if it seems too good to be true, then...
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