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jkendall01
I posted a few days ago and my post got buried so I am making a new one in hopes to get a bit more information. I was asked to post some pictures for further review. Here is the link:
http://s1122.photobucket.com/albums/l524/jkendall01/gunbroker/

The one photo hand written is a duplicate of what is stated on the gun itself. Thanks in advance for your help!
Buck
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  • Junkballer
    I for one am not sure what your asking or looking for ?
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  • Ambrose
    I believe you're looking for maker, history, value, and just general information on this family/class of gun. I am no expert on guns of this type. I will make one comment. I do not believe it is normal for the locking cross bolt to protrude like that when the gun is closed.
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  • Junkballer
    Your correct, if the bolt does'nt move into place then the gun is not locked when closed. It should be a easy repair,quality of the gun looks good and I beleive its English as I see the British proof mark of the Crown.
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  • rufe-snow
    If none of our folks can help with more specific information, you might post to shotgun specific web-sites. Because of the strict gun laws in Europe, sporting shotguns are much more easily collected then rifles or handguns. A number of European collectors frequent these sites because of this. It's been a while since I have been on these forums but I believe their names were "Shotgun World" and "Double Gun Journal". GOOGLE these names for a start to see if you can locate them, to get identification and valuation help for your German shotgun.
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  • jkendall01
    i am looking to find out more about the gunmaker (paul strube), the history of the gun, and value. also i dont know the year the gun was made, there is nothing visible on the gun to tell me . (frustrating).

    the gun was not all the way closed that is why the cross bolt was protruding. also the crown is followed by a u which i think is german. one thing i dont understand is why the eagle is above the crown u. i am having alot of trouble finding out anything about this gun.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by jkendall01
    i am looking to find out more about the gunmaker (paul strube), the history of the gun, and value. also i dont know the year the gun was made, there is nothing visible on the gun to tell me . (frustrating).

    the gun was not all the way closed that is why the cross bolt was protruding. also the crown is followed by a u which i think is german. one thing i dont understand is why the eagle is above the crown u. i am having alot of trouble finding out anything about this gun.


    Your hand drawn sketch of the markings unfortunately is very hard to decipher. A quality photo would be much easier to identify.

    The small eagle above the Crown U is the German preliminary proof mark, used on all firearms between 1891 and 1939.

    The German proof laws weren't changed until after the First World War in the 1920's, adding a date to the proof marks.
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  • asphalt cowboy
    You might find some info here.
    http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm

    Beautiful 16 btw.
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  • jkendall01
    if you can view the tenth picture enlarged, it will show the markings perfectly... it also will have 1836 on the other side.
    thanks
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  • rufe-snow
    IMHO, the 11/25 marking on the bottom of the barrel is the proof date, i.e. November 1925.

    The number on the Watertable is the serial number.




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  • jkendall01
    thankyou very much for the info it is very helpful. i will continue to try and find out more about the gunsmaker and the history of the gun and value.
    thanks, buck
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