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remington wells fargo shotgun

fishperch
need info on a remington double barrell shotgun. has wells fargo express on stock. the number 15 stamped on it. the metal badge on side has a date of 1892. I can e-mail pic please mail me at plovettslures@aol.com
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  • Spider7115
    99% of Wells Fargo guns are fake. If it's actually marked "Wells Fargo" rather than "WF & Co", it's most likely fake as well.
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  • fishperch
    it has WF&CO ON stock and on the metal badge thats rivited on the stock it has wells fargo express. can I send you some pics? e-mai lme at plovettslures@aol.com
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  • Spider7115
    This thread shows you how to post pictures here in the forum:

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294

    This is from Wells Fargo's website:

    http://blog.wellsfargo.com/guidedbyhistory/2009/04/fakes.html

    "As to guns, Wells Fargo never had guns made. Armed personnel supplied their own equipment. Of course, one never knows what might turn up out there, but it's pretty safe to say that your firearm with the Wells Fargo markings is not authentic."

    Because of literally thousands of fake guns falsely attributed to Wells Fargo & Company, most collectors won't touch one unless it has documented, irrefutable provenance.
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  • fishperch
    pics of remington double barrell 12 GA
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  • countryfarmer
    I'm not expert on them but it looks TOO well marked to be legit.
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  • Spider7115
    Well, I can't say either way. It almost looks "overdone" but if you go to the link below, it's a section of the book "A history of Remington". On the Chapter 4 page, it pictures a shotgun titled "Wells Fargo Remington Hammer Shotgun" that looks just like yours:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=jAmkAvoUKIEC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=wells+fargo+remington+shotgun&source=bl&ots=44ZPmlSyQV&sig=W8jCWiR8KvYCfnIK13aLkpL2dyQ&hl=en&ei=dqozTbShHYet8Ab5j6nrCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wells%20fargo%20remington%20shotgun&f=false
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  • fishperch
    thanks ,same gun without all the markings. thanks for the help. will look into more. Phillip
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by fishperch
    thanks ,same gun without all the markings. thanks for the help. will look into more. Phillip

    You're welcome and good luck in your further research. If it was mine, I would get a copy of that book showing the picture.
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  • wpage
    If Wells Fargo has not changed its strick policies.

    My opinion is it looks authentic. Or a very good forgery.
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  • hrf
    From the Wells Fargo website: https://www.wellsfargo.com/about/history/faqs

    FAQ #10. How do I know if the Wells Fargo markings on an antique shotgun are real?
    "Wells Fargo" marked shotguns have become a problem among collectors of antique firearms. In general, each town's Well Fargo Agent bought weapons from local stores carrying whatever was available - it was not a central headquarters function. Just as with companies today, Wells Fargo's offices did not keep outdated records. Therefore, there are no comprehensive lists of Wells Fargo firearms.

    Additionally, in recent years, many people have added "Wells Fargo" to actual antique weapons. All of this makes it very difficult to know whether any shotgun currently for sale was or was not used by Wells Fargo, regardless of the markings. For further information, you may check the book by James Bartz, Company Property, (the Westbound Stage, 1993), for sale at http://www.westboundstage.com.

    (Also read FAQ #9)
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