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1914 ERFURT Luger value

JustC
another gun from a friends late FIL's collection. What all is this pistol's history and what would it be worth.

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thanks for any help
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  • Hawk Carse
    Made at the Erfurt Royal Arsenal in Suhl, Germany in 1914.
    Used to shoot at Frenchmen, Britishers, and Americans in WW I and maybe WW II.
    Grabbed as a souvenir by an American when the Germans lost.
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  • rufe-snow
    The amount of abrasion on the side plate, front of frame and barrel, makes it appear that these areas had been rusted/pitted, do to improper storage in a holster, and someone made a attempt to clean it up. This is never a good thing and is a big turn-off to collectors. With out evidence to the contrary it appears to be maybe a "shooter" condition Luger in the $300-$500 range, IMHO.
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  • Herschel
    Blue instead of straw color on the trigger, safety lever and take down bolt indicates the gun has been refinished. Lack of the last two digits on the side plate indicates this is not the original sideplate. (military pistols had the last two digits on the side of the sideplate. Civilian models had the last two digits on the bottom.) We know that the toggle link is from Erfurt. If the receiver numbers match the toggle link we know it is from Erfurt. From what we can see we can only speculate as to whether it is a Erfurt made pistol with mismatched sideplate or a complete mixmaster. All Erfurt production was to the military.
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  • JustC
    IIRC the numbers match everywhere on the gun. I did take notice of that.

    as to pitting, I saw no evidence of pitting removal or attempts. It looked to me to be blueing wear from being carried in a holster, but I would have to go back and look closer.

    thanks
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  • JustC
    OK, so upon a look today, the pistol is all matching in part numbers. The 4 digit serial number ends in "92", and the "92" stamp is present on all parts that are stamped. So this is an all original gun. also there is no eveidence of pitting removal where the blue is missing, it appears to be holster wear.

    So where are we now?

    thanks
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  • perry shooter
    There are some parts that have been REBLUED They are the wrong color on this vintage pistol the best way to tell if entire gun is reblued is to dismount the barrel toggle assm. from the grip frame then look at the inside of the grip frame and by turning the Toggle assm up side down if the inside of the gun is in the white it is original finish but if blued then it is non factory reblue. Original finish [^]worth more reblue = lost value to less then 50% of original. [:(]
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