SHIPPING 1891 ARG MAUSER NO FFL CURIO?
WANT TO CONFIRM LEGAL TO SHIP AN 1891 7.65 ARG MAUSER DIRECTLY TO BUYER BASED ON AGE AND COMMERCIAL AMMO NOT MANUFACTURED IN USA FOR THAT ITEM. GENUINELY APPRECIATE ANY INFO BEFORE LISTING AS WISH TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE LAWS. GBTRADERBOB/ORYGUN/USA
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Under federal law it is an antique and not classified as a firearm. State laws are all over the place on the issue of just what is a firearm so don't expect a blanket okay for shipping to all states and municipalities. 0 -
Although it's a Model 1891 it's being manufactured prior to the 1898 cutoff date to qualify as a antique firearm, isn't absolutely certain IMHO.
Also I am not certain that the ammo is not currently manufactured in the U.S., as Graf & Son distributors located in MO were selling it fairly recently, when I was on their web site.
To make sure your not putting yourself in a jam for a nickel/dime item, I would only send it to a C & R licensee, not to just anybody based on it's pre 1898 antique status. Specially if the ammo is readily available on the net.0 -
If it was made by Loewe {should be stamped on receiver}, It is good to go. If not there is a chance it's later than 1899. Be careful. Bob 0 -
Ammunition is not mailable.
Common carriers (UPS & Fedex) will ship ammunition, but it must be shipped in compliance with their regulations.
In all cases, it doesn't matter if the ammo is old or new, modern or obsolete.
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quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
Although it's a Model 1891 it's being manufactured prior to the 1898 cutoff date to qualify as a antique firearm, isn't absolutely certain IMHO.
Also I am not certain that the ammo is not currently manufactured in the U.S., as Graf & Son distributors located in MO were selling it fairly recently, when I was on their web site.
To make sure your not putting yourself in a jam for a nickel/dime item, I would only send it to a C & R licensee, not to just anybody based on it's pre 1898 antique status. Specially if the ammo is readily available on the net.
Availability of ammo isn't a criteria for a weapon to be an antique under Federal law, if it was made prior to 1898.
If that were true, there would be no such thing as an antique Mosin Nagant rifle, though there are plenty of them floating around. Ditto for 1873 Peacemaker revolvers.0 -
I misread the OP and though that the rifle was made in 1891. I now see that it is simply a Model 1891. Age makes a big differnce and if you cannot show that it was produced prior to 1899 then it is a Curio and Relic and not an antique. Better do some research. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by babun
If it was made by Loewe {should be stamped on receiver}, It is good to go. If not there is a chance it's later than 1889. Be careful. Bob
Like babun said, if the left side receiver rail is marked Loewe, it's pre-1899 and classified as an antique, if it's marked DWM, it's post 1899, and it's C&R.0 -
THANK YOU SIRS TO ALL REPLYING TO THIS INQUIRY. RIFLE IS A LOEWE'S 1891 AND WILL LIST FOR SALE/TRADE THIS WEEK AFTER PICS. IT'S A CLEAN COPY WITH BAYONET RECEIVED FROM ESTATE BUT DO NOT COLLECT MIL ARMS. MAY ASK FOR C&R ANYWAY BUT SHIP W/O IF BUYER WELL INFORMED. REGULARLY LIST AS GBTRADERBOB AND THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE. 0 -
I have bought & sold "Loewe Berlin 1891's" non-ffl. Only need Picture I.D. & statement that there are no local, state, nor federal laws against purchasing & owning said Rifle. It's the rcvr. that controls the "Antique" status. These can be re-barrelled, drill/tapped, new stock, different caliber, etc. There has been past threads on this issue. It boils down to your Rifle, your rules. My FFL dealer states that the Gov't has people scared and are $%^&*($# all over the 2nd Amendment. I bid on both, but cost goes up having to use FFL dealer. Nice to have it shipped direct. 0
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