winchester 1892 wood to metal fit
Im considering making an offer on what appears to be an all original 1892 Winny in 38-40 cal.SER#255xxx.
Most of the blueing is gone.
All the screws look original and in excellent cond.
There is quite a bit of pitting on the receiver.
I can see no rust in the metal or cracks in the wood.
the lever action and trigger is smooth and the owner claims it shoots fine.
Inside the barrel is dirty so I can only assume it is in poor condition, maybe not?
The worst of it is the metal to wood fit.
I dont know but I am guessing the wood has shrunk leaving sizeable gaps.
As a relatively new collector Iam ignorant as to how the wood and metal are attached.
Can anything be done to close this gap without compromising the guns value?(screw tightening,professional wood swelling...dont laugh)
From what Ive seen on GB auctions,the poor wood to metal fit is not common.
Does $400 seem like a fair offer? Thank You.
Most of the blueing is gone.
All the screws look original and in excellent cond.
There is quite a bit of pitting on the receiver.
I can see no rust in the metal or cracks in the wood.
the lever action and trigger is smooth and the owner claims it shoots fine.
Inside the barrel is dirty so I can only assume it is in poor condition, maybe not?
The worst of it is the metal to wood fit.
I dont know but I am guessing the wood has shrunk leaving sizeable gaps.
As a relatively new collector Iam ignorant as to how the wood and metal are attached.
Can anything be done to close this gap without compromising the guns value?(screw tightening,professional wood swelling...dont laugh)
From what Ive seen on GB auctions,the poor wood to metal fit is not common.
Does $400 seem like a fair offer? Thank You.
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Pretty hard for the Winchester experts to tell much without pictures. Any "original" 1892 is worth $400 though. If you can get it for that and it shoots where you aim it; its a deal. Not much of a collector piece from your description but should be great fun to shoot. 0 -
22hipower...Thank you for your comments.38-40 ammo is too pricey for me to shoot much.
I was hoping to find that wood to metal gaps were common to this model or that it could be remedied.
Aside from the poor fitting wood it appears to be in better condition than ones being bid at around $700-900.
But if the bad fit wood reduces it to a shooter status I think Ill pass.0 -
If you are going to buy guns for collecting, you need to know the gun well and buy the best you can get.
The one you inquired about sounds like an old worn gun. While some may buy it, a collector will pass it up as they would likely have a better gun already.
Different types of collectors. I met one that, at one time had the largest privet collection of Winchesters. He was the one that did all the sportsman's shows at one time (possibly the 70's). He sold almost all of his guns when I met him and was collecting only one serial number. Can not remember what it was, possibly number 8.
He knew alot about Winchesters. Could tell you if it was real or a put together with out even looking it over.0 -
quote:Originally posted by tone59
22hipower...Thank you for your comments.38-40 ammo is too pricey for me to shoot much.
I was hoping to find that wood to metal gaps were common to this model or that it could be remedied.
Aside from the poor fitting wood it appears to be in better condition than ones being bid at around $700-900.
But if the bad fit wood reduces it to a shooter status I think Ill pass.
UltraMax ammunition, has a line of cowboy ammynition. 38W.C.F./38-40 is one of them, in that group. I bought a case of it, as I have both Winchester 73's, and 92's rifles for them, and Colt first generation SAA's. The ammunition is decent, and less expensive than the winchester couterparts.
I also have bought 41 Colt, 44-40, and 45 Colt ammuntion of this brand. It has all worked very well.
Sounds like you potentially have a parts gun, or at least the furniture has been changed, or refinished by a novice.
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Most collectors are constantly upgrading their pieces . In order to upgrade you need to have one to start with . From the S/N I'd guess that 92 is around the turn of the 20th century , and $00.00 would be a good price for a starter ! 0 -
I found this 1892 while looking at the mans 1890 in my quest to acquire John Browning designed guns.
Unfortunately the 1890 had been altered and has lost most of its collector value.
JBs I now have include:
Colt 1911
Colt Woodsman
Browning HP
Browning BAR-22
Browning Auto-5
Winchester 94
Since I have the 94 Im not really in the market for a JB lever.
Currently on the hunt for a winchester 1890 and Ithaca 37.
Thanks to all for your comments.0 -
quote:Originally posted by tone59
I was hoping to find that wood to metal gaps were common to this model or that it could be remedied. Aside from the poor fitting wood it appears to be in better condition than ones being bid at around $700-900. But if the bad fit wood reduces it to a shooter status I think Ill pass.
Poor fitting wood is not common, and walnut does no shrink enough to create gaps in the fit. The problem you are seeing is due to one of two things (1) someone has sanded and refinished the stocks, or (2) the stocks currently on the gun are not original to it.0 -
tsr1965 & Bert H. ...re-finishing makes sense from what Im seeing.
Probably done long long ago.
nonetheless not original.
Thank You.0
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